nicolasd

I am looking for a support tool, to communicate with my customers. I like the way Intercom does it, but it has no reasonable pricing model if you don't need user-tracking and have a lot of inactive users.

I learned C/C++, Java, SQL and know how most common patterns work.

But I've never really used a framework before and a few months ago I wanted to work with rails. But for me it was harder than learning about 4 star pointers or something like that.

Especially if you programmed nearly everything before by yourself it's hard to get comfort with the "magic" behind rails.

I tried to create some small webapps with rails to get in touch with it, but to be honest: without Ryan Bates awesome railscasts I can't write a single line of code!

How did you learn to work with frameworks like rails or django? Is learning a framework harder than learning programming?