Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin):

This chart shows EU outspending the US.

https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma....

> The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin

This is not true for some time now.

First google result (but there are more charts, numbers and sources): https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

Yet whoever provided more aid is irrelevant, since it's not enough anyway. We, as a world, are observing (and doing nothing, for the most part) fourth reich coming into action.

"The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault."

I've said the US can't be trusted to keep support up. Don't twist my words.

> The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault.

There is nothing in the parent post to even hint that they are saying that the US is to blame for what happened.

The US cannot be trusted to fulfill it's approved upon role in NATO if and when the push comes to shove (that damage to the US reputation is done).

I want to make it clear that the US does not sholder this responsibility alone. Every signatory to the convention is required to come to it's allies need if needed.

Europe has to get it's act together when it comes to securing its own borders, with tech and armaments produced inside said borders but in a cooperation with the US. As partners.

Funding to Ukraine is even more complicated than most people realize. A massive amount of the money spent for weapons to be delivered to Ukraine is produced outside Ukraine in the US, EU etc. In cases where existing vehicles and ammunition is sent it is also an opportunity for all donors to modernize their vehicles and ammunition by replacing the donated ones with new ones.

That's just something they tell you during your election campaign. The truth is a bit different, USA is good at promissing and forcing other to do, but it did very little, compared to own GDP and military abilities.

Money:

- EU - 85,0 Mrd. €

- USA - 67,7 Mrd. €

- Deutschland - 22,1 Mrd. €

- Vereinigtes Königreich - 15,7 Mrd. €

- Dänemark - 8,8 Mrd. €

- EU: nur gemeinsame Hilfe

- Quelle: Institut für Weltwirtschaft / Ukraine Support Tracker

Tanks, promissed and delivered:

- Polen 324 Stück 264 Stück

- Niederlande 104 Stück 23 Stück

- Tschechien 90 Stück 90 Stück

- USA 76 Stück 23 Stück

- Deutschland 55 Stück 48 Stück

> The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date.

Didn't EU just now agreed on future aid of the same amount the USA is still struggling to get through?

That is a lie. EU and European countries has given more than double that of the US.

the usg considers russia one of its key rivals, and so this ukraine thing was a godsend for them: ukraine provides the cannon fodder to fight and die, usg provides the materiel, and russia doesn't have a casus belli to nuke new york. the usg gets all the benefits of fighting a land war with russia with almost none of the costs: no messy body bag parades on cnn, no psychologically disturbed veterans blowing up federal buildings in oklahoma, no sheets of radioactive glass that were until recently thriving metropolises, and no test of the us nuclear response capabilities

all it's cost so far, in direct terms, is a hundred billion dollars or so over a couple of years, in an economy with thirty trillion dollars a year of gdp. 0.2% of gdp, say. contrast with, for example, 2.5% for the apollo program, or 1% for the manhattan project

it sucks pretty bad for the ukrainians tho. and the russians. they're being ground into hamburger by the machinations of putin and the usg, jockeying for power. anyone with a scrap of human feeling is horrified by what is happening. but that's not what animates the cfr

It's less about current actions and more about how mercurial and dysfunctional the US congress currently is. No one is willing to bet their sovereignty on the outcome of a US presidential election.

The US funds their own economy, most of the money they send goes back to the US economy because they produce the weapons that Ukraine purchase.

> The US has provided...

You write in the past tense, and in that sense you're right.

But the US is no longer providing that help.

“America bad” is the opium of the masses.

IMO, if any random country’s government whom we are not allied with through NATO publicly criticizes the USA’s response to helping them out in a war that we have no obligation to help with, I believe we should immediately cease any and all financial aid and let them feel the squeeze. When they publicly apologize and recognize that the United States is truly the only thing keeping any order in the world, then and only then do we consider resuming whatever support we deem appropriate. This should apply to any NATO-allied nation who hasn’t met their 2% defense spending as well. If your country doesn’t keep up their end of the deal, we certainly shouldn’t keep ours.

> and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault

Genuine question as someone who has no connection to either government of the Russia-Ukraine war: didn't the US push Ukraine into not accepting terms with Russia, under the promise that it would support Ukraine in case of war? In other words, it pushed Ukraine into the war, using it as a proxy to fight Russia.

The delay in US aid is going to lose this war. It's unconscionable.

"by a large margin"

Numbers? Source?

In terms of % GDP, USA is quite far down the list.

Spending a lot is not a badge of honor in an asymmetric conflict. If the US was spending more efficiently than Russia the way it did in Afghanistan, this would be sending a message to the next Putin that invading one's neighbors is a losing proposition.

The US's economy suffering more than Russia's sends the opposite message.

Honestly what's the difference whether it's POTUS or Congress blocking the bill ? The writing on the wall is here: if Russia invades Poland, NATO article 5 or not the US will not go into full blown war with Russia.

And honestly it was the European's fault to believe in this pipe dream.

Is it truly supporting Ukraine though?

All of that money is being laundered back to the U.S. war machine, yet it's somehow losing this "war"? Mitch McConnell admitted that himself just recently.

Meanwhile, Kiev is in pristine condition while Gaza is a now a wasteland. None of this makes sense.