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0 pointsThaxll2y ago0 comments

The US funds their own economy, most of the money they send goes back to the US economy because they produce the weapons that Ukraine purchase.

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cglace2y ago· 3 in thread

And the stockpiles of artillery, long-range munitions, armor, ammo, guns, etc sent?

The US really can't win. If we didn't support Ukraine we would be blasted. If we do it's because we are just trying to enrich ourselves.

inglor_cz2y ago

"And the stockpiles of artillery, long-range munitions, armor, ammo, guns, etc sent?"

Quite a lot of those are older weapons that need to be either spent or securely disposed of within a decade or so.

Don't take me wrong, I am happy that the US helped Ukraine and I certainly wish that the next package passes the House, but the economic cost of your help isn't easily calculated in dollars. (Or, for that matter, our in Czech crowns.)

Stockpiles need to be either spent or renewed/replaced. Perhaps you could have used some of that older stuff in training, but not all of it. Military equipment has an expiration date, you would need to refresh your stockpiles anyway.

schumpeter2y ago

Because the only winning move it not to play. This is Europe's war. Not sure why the US is involved at all. It's not like Ukraine has oil or a NATO partner.

willvarfar2y ago

As Viscount Cunningham famously said when he risked his fleet to evacuate troops in the Battle of Crete in 1941, 'It takes three years to build a ship; it takes three centuries to build a tradition'. Which feels like how America's new insularism is undoing all the "leader of the free world" fandom that it has carefully cultivated - and profited from - in the last 80 years.

Today the US has two strategic enemies - Russia and China - and two strategic partners, Nato in Europe and everyone in pacific except China.

The US can spend peanuts - it really isn't a lot of money in US defence terms - backing Ukraine and using Ukrainian casualties to defeat it's strategic enemy, Russia, whilst making it's other strategic enemy, China, fear it.

Or it can waver and show it's no longer the leader of the democratic world and make all it's allies in Europe and Asia not believe in it.

My big fear is that it is empowering China to dare to have it's go at Taiwan in a couple of years.

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