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0 pointsMrDresden2y ago0 comments

> The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault.

There is nothing in the parent post to even hint that they are saying that the US is to blame for what happened.

The US cannot be trusted to fulfill it's approved upon role in NATO if and when the push comes to shove (that damage to the US reputation is done).

I want to make it clear that the US does not sholder this responsibility alone. Every signatory to the convention is required to come to it's allies need if needed.

Europe has to get it's act together when it comes to securing its own borders, with tech and armaments produced inside said borders but in a cooperation with the US. As partners.

0 pointsMrDresden2y ago0 comments

> The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault.

There is nothing in the parent post to even hint that they are saying that the US is to blame for what happened.

The US cannot be trusted to fulfill it's approved upon role in NATO if and when the push comes to shove (that damage to the US reputation is done).

I want to make it clear that the US does not sholder this responsibility alone. Every signatory to the convention is required to come to it's allies need if needed.

Europe has to get it's act together when it comes to securing its own borders, with tech and armaments produced inside said borders but in a cooperation with the US. As partners.

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david2ndaccount2y ago· 2 in thread

Ukraine is not part of NATO, so how has push come to shove?

mrguyorama2y ago

The very politicians blocking Ukraine support are openly talking about how NATO should be abandoned. I don't know how else you can interpret that other than making Europe doubt the US would come to her aid.

cglace2y ago

I would say the rest of the Republicans have ignored or shrugged off his comments more than agree with them.

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jonwachob912y ago· 1 in thread

>>> The US cannot be trusted to fulfill it's approved upon role in NATO if and when the push comes to shove (that damage to the US reputation is done).

What role as the US failed to fulfill in Ukraine? Ukraine isn't a NATO member, the US had no obligation to come to their support, yet we did anyways.

Meanwhile Germany divested their entire domestic energy security and became subservient to Russia for energy - enabling this entire conflict b/c Russia felt Europe became addicted and depended to Russian fuels and wouldn't oppose their dealers.

KingOfCoders2y ago

Yes, like buying LNG from the US [0]

[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-...

"Europe became addicted and depended to Russian fuels "

Yes like the US was addicted to oil from the middle east. The difference, Europe couldn't invade Russia and take the gas away.

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