https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178757
If the answer is they keep your domains, like they do with Adsense revenue when they ban accounts, then you should definitely be getting your .dev through a different domain provider who Google cannot avoid cooperating with because of ICANN rules they have to follow.
This was for a real TLD but I suspect that there is something similar for vanity domains.
There’s no reason that a domain can’t end in ANY string. Bingo, no more fake “shortage.”
It is extremely unwise and very much against the founding spirit of the Internet to allow one company this much control, especially one that has shown itself to be censorious in the past.
System errors - https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7nrx07/google_...
We're twenty years in so likely there are actually thousands of legitimate reasons, the problem is their system seems designed to dismiss any evidence to the contrary so a false positive is a lifetime ban too.
This same argument actually dates back years for not using your web host for your domain registrar, because of contrived problems hindering domain transfers.
Think of all the companies with domain names that do not reference their product category. (ex. google.com, amazon.com, etc.). It's not like they needed search.com or shopping.com to be successful.
(That would also include names that describe a vertical that someone tried to trademark into being the name of a business anyway: pets.com and the like. If that trademark isn’t already well known, then this is just an attempt to end-run the auction system, rather than a valid claim.)
Given that TLDs can decide their own allocation policies, I’m surprised none of them have tried this yet.
I wonder whether a different approach would work. Instead of basing TLD name spacing on nebulous terms (com,net,org,io,edu,etc) create a naming system that better reflects the real world. The abstracted terms lead to clashing. So addressing actually reflects physical addressing. There’s only ever going to be one company at Apple’s corporate address. Not sure how it’d work.
Edit-the tech to do this via gps even exists today.
And this doesn't annoy you about '.com' or '.org'?
'pets.com' is owned by petsmart, and they're sure not the only pet store. Practically every generic sounding '.com' has been taken and has the "issue" you cite. 'x.org' was registered in the early 90s, and the Xorg foundation certainly isn't the only 'X' out there.
It's a little too late to protest now, this problem has existed since the dawn of the domain name system.
Aaaaaaand its $11,500.
I managed to get <lastname>.dev, and it's a somewhat common last name, for $133.50 on the "GA" pricing. I expect someone will grab it before then. But if not...
Is it going to help people reach your site? I kinda doubt it. Will Google use it to index your site differently? Maybe, but I dunno. I hope not, but it would kind of make sense.
Hence, right now kjaegrlkjnfvaf.dev is "$11,500 + $12/year" [0] while hn.dev is "$11,500 + $720/year" [1]
So alex.dev and aj.dev will cost $720/year forever, tim.dev, james.dev and emma.dev are $360/year, tony.dev and grace.dev are $180/year, olivia.dev and harry.dev are $98/year, yusef.dev, oscar.dev and sanjay.dev are $12/year.
Maybe not "prohibitive" but a big premium for the Alexes among us!
[0] https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=kja... [1] https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=hn....
To save some clicks (in addition to the $12/year):
Feb 19: $11.5k
Feb 20: $3.5k
Feb 21: $1150
Feb 22-24: $350
Feb 25-27: $125
After the 27th you only have to pay the normal $12/year rate.
C$14,572.71
:(
In a lot of the large companies I've worked, money is siloed from one operating unit to the next. They would send bills between units and sometimes even departments.
The larger the company, the more common this seemed. It's not one giant piggy bank.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-venezuela-cafe-con-l...
But note I think you mean the $12 price but that’s only available from the 28th Feb. To buy today it is $11,500 (unless as others have pointed out you got it as part of the trademark sunrise period)
The latter is true (it protects against injection), but I'm not sure how the former is. How would it protect against ad malware?
It hardly seems like a worthwhile problem to solve at gTLD-scale.
That would have been a good gift to all the devs out there.
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
::1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> There was no service found for the uri requested.
Ok.
It looks like someone looked at this and said "well 12 grand is affordable but not at scale so people will think twice" - no this is just impossible for some people and amplifying unequal distribution. People with this kind of money already have a "I can get 1000 of em" advantage at $12 a year. No need to give those people more of a head start.
This policy comes from a place of privilege and I despise it. Period.
What's next, ReCAPTCHA bypass if you have Google One? (Ha I say that like it's not already implicitly the case that RC trusts a well tracked Google user more.)
It just happens to be cute for developers from a vanity perspective, but it doesn't matter.
444 comments a couple of days ago in "Google .dev domain early access" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178757
It feels like those would've been better suited for non-profit orgs
This is just yet another scattershot TLD. It's about as consequential as .ninja in the grand scheme of things.
• Google paid $25 million for “.app” [1]
• Amazon paid ~$5 million for “.buy”
• Amazon paid $2.2 million for “.spot”
• Verisign paid $135 million for “.web”
• Automattic paid $19 million for “.blog”
• ICM paid $3 million for “.sex”
[1] https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applications...
[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-just-paid-25-million-...
Doesn't seem to have those listed in the top article, though, not sure why. Maybe it'll update later.
EDIT: The official source seems to be https://czds.icann.org/
Try putting a one-character .dev domain in your cart (0.dev is available as of now). It's not a lump sum plus $12/year. It's thousands every year after registration.
In a way, I guess this is useful for deterring "domainers".
Even a 4-letter word or name .dev is hundreds of dollars a year. I wonder if the annual fee will drop as the days go by or just the purchase price.
For example, using GoDaddy, you can buy .dev domain for 800$ instead of 350$ on Friday (4th stage of early access).
https://get.dev/ https://github.dev/ https://grow.dev/ https://accessibility.dev/ https://slack.dev/
etc.
I'm interested in buying one, but not from them.
We used .dev domain internally in dev/testing environments and one day we were forced to switch domains because google bought it
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606
.test, .example, .invalid, .localhost
I guess that miiight stop squatters, but I feel like it will result in a squatter with deeper pockets.