Vinyl Cache and Varnish Cache (opens in new tab)

(vinyl-cache.org)

54 pointsFoxboron1mo ago26 comments

26 comments

This is the first I've actually heard of the name change... I used to use Varnish quite a bit, and had a decent grasp of VCL, for Drupal deployments. But I think Varnish 6 or 7 was when I started dropping off managing the caching layer as almost every project chose to offload caching to Cloudflare.

captn3m029d ago

This is helpful, but it is yet to be seen how downstream picks it up. Wikidata[0] has renamed it and marked the Vinyl repo as the preferred one. Gentoo[1] renamed the package and switched to Vinyl. Homebrew[2] is now tracking Varnish Software (downstream of Vinyl). Fedora[3] has switched to Varnish Software as well. At endoflife.date[5], we renamed to vinyl and switched tracking as well. Wikipedia[6] has renamed Varnish (Software) -> Vinyl Cache.

[0]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1602447

[1]: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=679937b...

[2]: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/273280

[3]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/varnish/c/59f403810b746e0...

[4]: https://repology.org/project/varnish/packages

[5]: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/9792

[6]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_Cache

hannibalhorn29d ago

Did not know this had happened, but does seem PHK (the original author of Varnish) is now with of the Vinyl Cache project, so this is not just a typical fork.

willjp29d ago

I appreciate the mysql/mariadb comparison.

nesarkvechnep29d ago

It finally made it click for me.

wmf29d ago

What's the deal with Antirez and PHK refusing to add TLS support?

phkamp29d ago

I'm not "refusing to add TLS support" I insist that the certificate is safely isolated in a separate process for security reasons. There are many ways to skin that cat.

captn3m029d ago

Aside: Loved your bit talking about money and varnish in Gift Community[1]. And thanks for the Beerware License, I've started using it!

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOn-L3tGKw0

lofaszvanitt29d ago

Varnish Enterprise has https support.

perbu29d ago

the whole point of varnish software keeping a public version of "vinyl cache" as "varnish cache" with TLS is to give people a way to access a FOSS version with native TLS.

I think TLS is table-stakes now, and has been for the last 10 years, at least.

time4tea29d ago

just use the tool that does the job.

TLS in -> hitch or caddy Cache -> varnish/vinyl TLS out -> haproxy

Connect them up with Unix sockets, if you like.

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lofaszvanitt29d ago

Terminate tls and you have your cache.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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geerlingguy29d ago

captn3m029d ago

[0]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1602447

[1]: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=679937b...

[2]: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/273280

[3]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/varnish/c/59f403810b746e0...

[4]: https://repology.org/project/varnish/packages

[5]: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/pull/9792

[6]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_Cache

hannibalhorn29d ago

Did not know this had happened, but does seem PHK (the original author of Varnish) is now with of the Vinyl Cache project, so this is not just a typical fork.

willjp29d ago

I appreciate the mysql/mariadb comparison.

nesarkvechnep29d ago

It finally made it click for me.

wmf29d ago

What's the deal with Antirez and PHK refusing to add TLS support?

phkamp29d ago

I'm not "refusing to add TLS support" I insist that the certificate is safely isolated in a separate process for security reasons. There are many ways to skin that cat.

captn3m029d ago

Aside: Loved your bit talking about money and varnish in Gift Community[1]. And thanks for the Beerware License, I've started using it!

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOn-L3tGKw0

lofaszvanitt29d ago

Varnish Enterprise has https support.

perbu29d ago

the whole point of varnish software keeping a public version of "vinyl cache" as "varnish cache" with TLS is to give people a way to access a FOSS version with native TLS.

I think TLS is table-stakes now, and has been for the last 10 years, at least.

time4tea29d ago

just use the tool that does the job.

TLS in -> hitch or caddy Cache -> varnish/vinyl TLS out -> haproxy

Connect them up with Unix sockets, if you like.

2 more replies

lofaszvanitt29d ago

Terminate tls and you have your cache.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse