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0 pointsleptons9mo ago0 comments

They have never stopped launching rockets and suicide bombing Israelis, just to kill them, which is their stated goal. That isn't diplomacy.

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fahhem9mo ago

The PA launches rockets?? That's a first-time hasbara line. Other groups, sure, even from the West Bank, but they're not in power and it's minuscule compared to the violence of the occupation. The settlers, with the IDF in tow, literally just killed a well-known documentarian and, a week or so ago, a US citizen, and that's just the recent ones that are known enough in the US to get coverage here. Do a google search and you'll see the ratio of Palestinians in the West Bank killed to Israelis injured shows that Israel isn't interested in diplomacy, it's interested in subjugation.

leptonsOP9mo ago

> "They bombed Gaza's airport and implemented a land and sea blockade where they controlled everything that went in or out (to the point where they put the Palestinians on a diet with calorie counting at one point). That's not pulling out."

You're taking this way off the topic I was replying to about why the ports and borders in Gaza are blocked. It's because they are used to import weapons to kill Israelis (Jewish people).

But now you're moving goalposts and changing the topic because the truth is the people of Gaza want more weapons to kill more Israelis (Jewish people).

bigyabai9mo ago

With this definition you might as well argue that bread is a lethal projectile that cannot be trusted in the hands of your neighbor. Gotta shut down the roads, and the borders, and the airspace, and the aid depots, and the trucks carrying aid, all because of weapons...? Some moving goalpost.

You are morally despicable if you cannot even acknowledge the issue with that. It has nothing to do with politics, you don't get to deflect the question because Israel's extremism makes you uncomfortable. We're gathered in this thread (with increasing frequency) because Israeli foreign policy leaves so much to be desired.

The parent is correct, regardless of how you or I wished it happened. Israel never pulled out, they crippled the Gaza strip because they wanted annexation more than peace.

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