Small plane crashes in Northeast Philadelphia (opens in new tab)

(6abc.com)

62 pointsthomasdziedzic1y ago83 comments

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Whatever the cause truly is, any and all aviation disasters in the US will further increase scrutiny of Musk gutting the FAA.

DiggyJohnson1y ago

Why and how are these things related? I acknowledge you’re making an observation and not an argument.

angoragoats1y ago

The FAA administrator left his post after Musk asked him to, on January 20. The FAA had no administrator until Trump appointed one, only after the plane and helicopter crashed into the Potomac. The lack of leadership at the FAA could not have helped the situation, even if it was not a direct cause of it.

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ahiknsr1y ago

> In April 2023, Whitaker grounded SpaceX for months after Starship’s maiden launch and only allowed a second attempt after an extensive investigation lasting until September of that year yielded 63 corrective actions to be taken.

> “He needs to resign,” Musk wrote late last year, in response to one of his fans criticizing what he believed to be the FAA’s unwarranted meddling in the entrepreneur’s affairs.

https://fortune.com/2025/01/31/faa-chris-rocheleau-elon-musk...

esalman1y ago

It is just sad that American voters have given Musk, who is running a ponzi scheme based on "FSD" that regularly kills people, the license to gut FAA. And immediately we have the first on air collision in 16 years.

cdme1y ago

I can't see how Musk could possibly improve the FAA. He'll gut it and deflect blame.

_DeadFred_1y ago

The FAA dared try and fine SpaceX. Musk has had an agenda against the FAA since before Trump took office.

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HumblyTossed1y ago

Nobody is going to be left to scrutinize anything much less have any power to do anything about it. If anyone is still doubting that we're under a full scale takeover of our country, get your head out of your ass.

tomrod1y ago

Yeah, but that's one tiny area where Musk and Trump have caused recent chaos.

Just today, social security servers, websites, etc. Treasury department systems.

echoangle1y ago

Is there something especially significant about this crash? Or is this only because there was a large crash recently?

sonofhans1y ago

Twenty-odd years ago there was a rash of US politicians killed in aircraft accidents. This seems like a good source — look at the cluster in late 90s, early 00s - https://politicalgraveyard.com/death/aircraft.html

Very few since then, so it’s much more of an outlier now.

iterance1y ago

Edit: Incorrect.

Original comment: Any plane crash in the US is unusual and significant.

vultour1y ago

No it's not, small planes crash frequently.

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jmward011y ago

I'd argue that the fact that it isn't frequent makes it insignificant. 40k people die every year on the roads and, to our detriment, we don't treat that as significant. I wish we would focus on things actually impacting people and not scare people with things that will never happen to them.

krunck1y ago

Anybody got statistics on air crashes in the US so we can see if the anomaly is only in the attention the crashes receive and not the frequency at which they are happening?

jonas211y ago

Small planes crash all the time:

https://asn.flightsafety.org/asndb/year/2025/1

Even if you only consider fatal crashes in the US, the last one before the DC incident was just this past Saturday.

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/473308

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jeffbee1y ago

Photographer on the spot: https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/live/plane-crash-...

metadat1y ago

Higher resolution version:

https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/v2/6OXRZY6NOJD3VBA7FMNIIKCI...

greenavocado1y ago

Why did it look like it was going Mach 1 into the ground?

metadat1y ago

Where did you see this footage?

greenavocado1y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouh1yg7Rmr4

Exactly at 18 to 19 seconds in

unsnap_biceps1y ago

in the article embed, around 52 seconds in has some video, it does appear to come in very fast.

nfcampos1y ago

Should be merged with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42895466

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mostlysimilar1y ago

Whatever the cause truly is, any and all aviation disasters in the US will further increase scrutiny of Musk gutting the FAA.

DiggyJohnson1y ago

Why and how are these things related? I acknowledge you’re making an observation and not an argument.

angoragoats1y ago

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ahiknsr1y ago

> “He needs to resign,” Musk wrote late last year, in response to one of his fans criticizing what he believed to be the FAA’s unwarranted meddling in the entrepreneur’s affairs.

https://fortune.com/2025/01/31/faa-chris-rocheleau-elon-musk...

esalman1y ago

cdme1y ago

I can't see how Musk could possibly improve the FAA. He'll gut it and deflect blame.

_DeadFred_1y ago

The FAA dared try and fine SpaceX. Musk has had an agenda against the FAA since before Trump took office.

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HumblyTossed1y ago

tomrod1y ago

Yeah, but that's one tiny area where Musk and Trump have caused recent chaos.

Just today, social security servers, websites, etc. Treasury department systems.

echoangle1y ago

Is there something especially significant about this crash? Or is this only because there was a large crash recently?

sonofhans1y ago

Very few since then, so it’s much more of an outlier now.

iterance1y ago

Edit: Incorrect.

Original comment: Any plane crash in the US is unusual and significant.

vultour1y ago

No it's not, small planes crash frequently.

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jmward011y ago

krunck1y ago

Anybody got statistics on air crashes in the US so we can see if the anomaly is only in the attention the crashes receive and not the frequency at which they are happening?

jonas211y ago

Small planes crash all the time:

https://asn.flightsafety.org/asndb/year/2025/1

Even if you only consider fatal crashes in the US, the last one before the DC incident was just this past Saturday.

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/473308

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jeffbee1y ago

Photographer on the spot: https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/live/plane-crash-...

metadat1y ago

Higher resolution version:

https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/v2/6OXRZY6NOJD3VBA7FMNIIKCI...

greenavocado1y ago