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0 pointstoomuchtodo1y ago0 comments

This is splitting hairs. These are vocally low/anti regulation and tax states hostile to even the belief in climate change when scoped to state reps [1] [2]. Let them financially support themselves and their disaster risk costs. They voted for this (both at federal and state levels). If they would like federal support for their high risk geography [3] [4] [5], they should consider voting for an administration that will provide such policy and support and believes in the science.

California is the world's fifth largest economy. They will be fine.

[1] https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-cl...

[2] https://www.npr.org/2024/05/17/1252012825/florida-gov-desant...

[3] https://www.axios.com/2023/09/27/insurance-rates-climate-cha...

[4] https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Business%20Functio...

[5] https://www.newsweek.com/map-reveals-scale-florida-property-...

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kcplate1y ago

Gotcha. So your answer is to break up the republic because you don’t like some of the region’s politics.

toomuchtodoOP1y ago

My answer is to let people who want to hurt themselves politically and economically proceed after we have collectively attempted to prevent these outcomes. If they get their vote till death, and they don't want to change their vote to anything productive, there is no other choice (as mental models are rigid and tribalism pressures are strong). Good luck to them, effort is better spent on people who actually care and investment where it is valued.

> …or maybe they can just vote for the change they would like at the federal level like they just did.

This is the change they voted for. If it is harmful to them, that was their choice. As Jamie Dimon said, "Get over it." Vote better next time? If the forest votes for the axe after everyone told them not to, I have no compassion when the axe starts chopping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodcutter_and_the_Trees

https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3l...

kcplate1y ago

> after we have collectively attempted to prevent these outcomes

Who is “we” and what did “we” do to prevent “what” outcome?

Seems to me if you can answer that question you might have a clue why the forest might chose the axe.

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krapp1y ago

These states and many of their citizens have been murmuring about a "cold civil war" and "peaceable secession" for decades, and a few have been flirting with secession since the actual civil war ended. They don't want to be a part of the US - or more accurately they consider only themselves to be the US, proper, and reject the authority of the Federal government as illegitimate, oppressive, and run according to cultural values which they despise.

So yeah, maybe it's better to let them go than suffer having them dragging the rest of the country down with them.

kcplate1y ago

…or maybe they can just vote for the change they would like at the federal level like they just did.

Funny how that works in a republic like ours. If their direction doesn’t pan out, you have opportunities in 2026 and 2028 to right the ship. Of course that would mean that the democrats will actually have to provide a leader to two that can effectively communicate, motivate, and lead.

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0 pointstoomuchtodo1y ago0 comments

California is the world's fifth largest economy. They will be fine.

[1] https://www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-cl...

[2] https://www.npr.org/2024/05/17/1252012825/florida-gov-desant...

[3] https://www.axios.com/2023/09/27/insurance-rates-climate-cha...

[4] https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Business%20Functio...

[5] https://www.newsweek.com/map-reveals-scale-florida-property-...

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kcplate1y ago

Gotcha. So your answer is to break up the republic because you don’t like some of the region’s politics.

toomuchtodoOP1y ago

> …or maybe they can just vote for the change they would like at the federal level like they just did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodcutter_and_the_Trees

https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3l...

kcplate1y ago

> after we have collectively attempted to prevent these outcomes

Who is “we” and what did “we” do to prevent “what” outcome?

Seems to me if you can answer that question you might have a clue why the forest might chose the axe.

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krapp1y ago

So yeah, maybe it's better to let them go than suffer having them dragging the rest of the country down with them.

kcplate1y ago

…or maybe they can just vote for the change they would like at the federal level like they just did.

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