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0 pointsfroh1y ago0 comments

any source for "everywhere" ? aka "science can't be trusted", hinting at "anywhere" ?

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pclmulqdq1y ago· 2 in thread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Stop asking for sources to try to prove that someone is wrong. It proves nothing.

Every time I have submitted a paper, I have dealt with this. Every scientist I know has dealt with this.

frohOP1y ago

TIL "Sealioning"

which it wasn't. we're discussing scientific culture.

OP is pointing out a problem.

and now you say always and everywhere which is a strong claim. happens sometimes, ok. happens a lot, okay.

but "everywhere", "always"?

also it would be genuinely interesting to get pointers on meta research, evidence based statements about the trustworthiness of X as in scientists, institutions, papers, publishers, ...

I ask for that and you respond "Sealioning"

shrug

have a grand evening

pclmulqdq1y ago

I've argued on the internet enough to know where the "source?" discussion goes. Nipping bad faith arguments in the bud is a good idea, in general, and the best way to do that is to call the argument out for what it is.

It's also a good idea not to try to start them, but I don't control your behavior. Doubling down on your bad faith arguments is not a good look, either.

If you would like to have a discussion with long-form essays and cited sources, start by bringing some. In other words, if you want other people to put in effort, put some in first.

Here's my anecdata: I have submitted 6 papers for review and had 7 reviewers request a citation of one sort or another.

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