One could also imagine a standardized ismn://<number> URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own that song in your personal music collection.
ISMN seems to exist: https://www.loc.gov/ismn/about.html
But, I've never actually seen it used for recordings; it seems to be focused solely on music notation. So, it would be nice to have some kind of recording-focused identifier for keeping track of specific performances between services.
"vendor-neutral import/export format" sounds like the definition of third party. It's not that there shouldn't be a third party, it's that spotify etc. should adopt it.
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/music-link/gnhphofp...
I guess this is a free service? E.g https://api.song.link/v1-alpha.1/links?url=https://open.spot...
Or just buy off Bandcamp if its an option.
Or by buying vinyl at a local record store. Sadly, those are dying out, but you can find one or two good ones in any major city.
In electronic, hip-hop, and a lot of music that has a lot of computer-assisted production, a lot of producers will also release sample packs or VST presets that they sell directly on their websites. While often in small amounts, $50 or less, it more often than not goes directly to the artist with very little middlemen involved. While not a huge stream of revenue I'd imagine, it probably does help smaller artists if they can count on an additional couple hundred bucks a month from people that truly appreiciate their craft and I'd bet that if I reached out to artist XYZ whose music is no longer available on major platforms and said "hey i have been to a few of your shows, bought all your sample packs, and I can't find your tracks anymore" the artist, if small enough, would probably oblige and send along a nice little folder of music.
Anyway as for actually getting copies of the music I listen to I think we should just pirate it completely unashamedly.
For the price of a Spotify subscription, I can usually buy a new album every month! Which is great; and I love slowly growing my album collection.
People are crazy for vinyl, but CDs are just _so_ convenient.
You can also keep the FLAC files to convert them to some future format later, or even do something really wild like burn them to a CD or something.
I just went to Amazon and found what's advertised as "mp3" for a recent Taylor Swift album.
Qobuz. For a start they only do lossless: no mp3. We're soon a quarter of a century into the 21st: gone are the Napster days of needing to stream mp3s.
Then Qobuz often has albums in higher quality than 44.1 kHz / 16-bit stereo. Not that you'll hear the difference: but artists/sound engineer going to the trouble of offering higher sample rate / bit depth typically do care about producing good sounding music so there's that.
Then Qobuz allows you to do precisely what you want: you can buy individual tracks or full albums to download, no DRM.
I've got both a collection of audio files I ripped myself from my own CDs (which I keep too), in a 100% bitperfect / lossless way (verified with an online DB of people who also ripped their CDs) and a Qobuz subscription.
The one criticism about Qobuz would be that music discovery ain't the best out there: the UI is actually quite bad. But it's good stuff for people who care about quality and who love to own their music.
Most network streaming devices now support Qobuz: for example I've got a fully integrated Yamaha amp that contains a network streamer (Yamaha R-N1000A) and MusicCast (Yamaha's music streaming app, like Sonos I guess but Yamaha) supports Qobuz (and Tidal and Spotify).
You don't just rent temporary access to an online service that may disappear under your feet or remove songs you used to listen to: you can actually buy and own individual tracks.
Check the plans they have: depending on how many songs you buy, one may be better than the other.
IIUC Spotify, under the pressure of both Tidal and Qobuz, announced they'll be moving to lossless streaming. It's 2024. At fucking last.
I'll also mention: Bleep.com, Boomkat, Ninja Tune (label that directly sells), Junodownload.
While not legal, having the subscription fix any moral problems I’d have with the idea.
The best way to support artists is to purchase albums the week they're released... Sales numbers are a key metric when labels decide touring and investment in the next album... Could mean a better studio or more resources...
If you are committed to the download off of tidal strategy, then please make a playlist of the tracks you download and play it overnight... Otherwise, none of your money supports the artists you listen to.
I'm actually working on a IoT device where one of the main goals was selfhosting audio content for my kids. Uses AI for the user interface. Similar to Alexa but battery powered. Still in private beta (orders are closed right now) but here is the link for anyone curious. https://heycurio.com/
Sending voice clips of children to an always listening server is just a bit too dystopian for me.
* The prices are a lot higher there than anywhere else
* They don't remember my payment information. I would opt-in to this if it's a legal concern. It's so annoying every single time having to enter it in all over again. I'd do PayPal but they charge a fee these days.
* Their tar'd up download format sucks, and requires me doing a lot of re-naming and re-foldering things to get it to a sane format.
* They started removing some of the things I PAID FOR from my account. Not cool. It's fine if you have to remove it from sale but removing it from my account should not be legal.
* Many popular tracks from otherwise not-so-popular albums are locked so you can't buy just that song, you need to buy the whole album
* If you've bought a few songs from an album, you don't get an appropriate discount if you later decide to buy the whole album - which some digital stores are good about.
Try BookOff, yard or estate sales, or "friends of the library" events. You will burn some time searching, but the hunt can be fun on its own.
I now see record stores so full of Vynil that it feels like I timetraveled back to my teenage years when CDs started to being sold, alongside laser discs on a little store corner.
Analog hole.
It takes a bit of time, but if you really care about the music, it's worth it.
Note: I suspect that the streaming services watermark the songs. I have some from Apple Music that it refuses to sync over its cloud service. Doesn't bother me, though, because I primarily sync via wire.
I don't use streaming platforms other than being aware of new musicians in YouTube, which I eventually buy their albums.
Nope. Not even remotely. Only if your taste in music is very narrow.
Just this weekend I tried to buy some Christmas songs that were popular and common on the radio in the 80's. I could only find about half of them on Amazon or Apple Music.
Most had some version available, but not the canonical one I grew up with. Some didn't exist at all.
Two Words by Kanye West: https://open.spotify.com/track/62wtttQzoIA9HnNmGVd9Yq?si=b1b...
Went to Two Words by Milabel Ranque: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Y64cFG9dfYo
Never Let Me Down by Kanye West: https://open.spotify.com/track/34j4OxJxKznBs88cjSL2j9?si=7ec...
Went to Never Let me Down by Depeche Mode: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=snILjFUkk_A
Even though the correct album art appeared on the site.
Actually none of the songs I put it are working. Is this what it's supposed to do? Find songs with similar titles?
https://open.spotify.com/track/5qFL2uwfnGU8FccwLMgPNQ?si=b-a...
https://idonthavespotify.donado.co/?id=b3Blbi5zcG90aWZ5LmNvb...
is missing the link to YouTube Music:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0IHBCxs7QPE&si=QYvCtGCjKav...
I would get lots of use out of this if it was reliable though! Very useful tiny tool idea.
https://idonthavespotify.donado.co/?id=b3Blbi5zcG90aWZ5LmNvb...
The deezer link was correct, tidal didn't work, others were incorrect.
Still a great idea, I thought about implementing something like this years ago.
When sharing music with a mixed group that I know some don't have spotify, I tend to just fall back to the common denominator of youtube links.
Maybe the misdirection is a feature, not a bug.
They do need to fix the bug with the album art though.
https://idonthavespotify.donado.co/
It would be fantastic to have this as an extension for us, Firefox users. I hope someone makes one someday.
If there's some easy way to figure out where that id parameter in the results page comes from (I assume some simple hash of the link), then you could probably even just make it a bookmarklet.
Works per artist, album, or song.
Create a login to customise URLs.
I'm just a user; I don't have a dog in this race.
I have an old synology nas thats running Navidrome in a docker container.
On my iPhone I use play:sub and point it to the local ip and port associated Navidrome.
When I’m away I access the network through a WireGuard connection (set up on a protectli router running opnsense). Before I used traefik to expose it to the web.
Takes some setup but once it works it’s great.
Example https://song.link/i/1051394215
The placeholder in their search field even says "Search or paste URL"
Add average 4G reliability to that and you have a service that never has what you need, and if they do it never works when you need it (e.g. long car rides in the middle of nowhere). And then they expect you to pay for it or listen to ads too. Nothing beats a good ol' folder of mp3s. And 128GB of the average phone can store many an mp3.
I always wanted to rebuild that and adjust to my needs. Now this convert thing from the OP seems to be an interesting extension to that. Just paste in spotify links, grab the YT one, yt-dlp it and there you go. Ill put this in my favorites, thanks!
Also not sure yt-dlp is any more legal than just downloading mp3s.
Edit: also we don't use mp3, we use free (tm) opus! (as in just yt-dlp -x )
Am I alone on this?
I use Apple Music, I use it because it's lossless and it's integrated in the Apple ecosystem. The UX of the actual Music app is... not great, but tolerable, better than the iTunes before it.
I listen to some pretty obscure stuff and I don't think I ever found something missing on it. YMMV.
Here's an ongoing 150+ page, 4 years old thread about it on their forums: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Op...
1: https://chodounsky.com/2019/03/24/progressive-web-applicatio...
A. Are developed with my own hardware
B. Are developed outside of hours of employment
C. Are not designed to compete with existing company products
Every place I've worked with was amenable to these terms, but I always make sure to get it IN WRITING.
What is the largest company you've successfully gotten to agree to these terms?
If your company owns your free time as well, you've fucked up and should talk to HR.
It got me thinking how useful something like an "I don't have instagram" app would be. Unfortunately I suspect it would be impossible to implement.
> One of MusicBrainz' aims is to be the universal lingua franca for music by providing a reliable and unambiguous form of music identification; this music identification is performed through the use of MusicBrainz Identifiers (MBIDs).
the complications with the same song appearing in multiple albums (including compilations) would give weird results sometimes, but it is totally useable if you only care about finding basic information.
I don't know how to look up music with a known ISRC, though.
Even as a paying Pandora member I plan to use this (over their website).
If you share a song link using Tidal, it actually shares a landing page where the user can select from Tidal, Spotify, Apple Music, or Amazon Music. It's really great.
> https://open.spotify.com/track/1Pfc1Qpj0s9vQumI0JvpBp
mapped to
> https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ogoeWS6CDbI
but it should have mapped to
https://inthesetimes.com/article/spotify-military-industrial...
War companies sell war, and they sell it to evil people (see Israel's apartheid and genocide in Gaza). The privatization of war is bad for everybody.
I wish I could just share the spotify link to a WPA app using the Web Share API and have it share back the url for my preffered music streaming app.
I guess I can ask claude to do it for me and use the code here for the UI, but I can't find the license file
https://x.com/justinprojects/status/1708184379326144925?s=46
https://musicmachinery.com/2010/02/10/introducing-project-ro...
what if i have a youtube link and i want to stream on spotify? what if i have an apple music link but want to play it on a linux device where only spotify works?
it's more likely that you discovered a song on youtube and wanted to add it to your spotify playlist, rather than browsing spotify and then deciding to listen on another platform.
someone should make a service like this, but make it universal for all platforms.
however, i found the ability of matching a spotify artist profile to the artist's platform profiles impressive.
Huh? What linux device might only have access to spotify? Pretty much every Linux distribution (with the possible exception of Linux From Scratch[0]) has multiple local apps to play music, both from the command line and via a gui in their standard package repositories.
Not to mention dozens of sites (if you can get to spotify you can get to them) that perform the same function.
Please do explain, as I'm pretty confused.
you're completely right other services and software are available on linux. but the point i'm trying to make is, this tool is spotify -> others, but a common use-case is others -> spotify.
"Something went wrong, please try again later"
I like this idea
Apple, Google and Meta are Data Transfer Initiative members. I hope Spotify joins soon.
So, y'know, might be coming.
But you can't skip to the next tune so you need to skip to the next webradio instead ;)
I left Spotify when they signed Rogan.
Well I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.
(I also... don't use spotify... so had less-than-average context to guess the purpose of this project with.)
If you're in a DM or a group chat, you may not hear "You should listen to X by Y" but rather "Check this out: https://open.spotify.com/blah"
At my current workplace and a previous one, both had Slack channels for sharing music and they were 99% Spotify links.
Partly because of genuine Spotify usage but even not using Spotify at the time, I would find the Spotify equivalent for my own recommendations (to reduce friction for the majority so they'd be more likely to actually listen to the recommendation)
Presumably for those few users not using Spotify, rather than having to find the equivalent song via text search, which may or may not contain a result for Provider Z, this service straight up just converts the Spotify link you've been given into all of the other provider equivalents.
So if you care about your musicians consider seeking out other ways to get your records, e.g. bandcamp
> Effortlessly convert Spotify links to your preferred streaming service
