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0 pointsBobbyTables21y ago0 comments

I also shudder to think what types of employers would be complicit with such a scenario.

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You're right to fear employers who want to avoid claiming employees so that they don't have to comply with, for example, safety laws. But shadow work also includes situations with "casual" business relationships, like a couple who hires a nanny to watch their kids 40 hours a week. Both parties may feel that complying with tax and labor laws is too much of a burden.

smileysteve1y ago

> Both parties may feel that complying with tax and labor laws is too much of a burden.

That's - a way - to phrase:

- facilitate an effective 7.5% pay cut (employer paid Social Security / Medicare / Medicaid tax)

- avoid being properly compensated for overtime (assuming non exempt salary),

- and make claiming unemployment, disability benefits more difficult

When you refer to both, can you emphasize a specific burden the employee is subject to other than reduce tax benefits on disability / social security?

Dylan168071y ago

> facilitate an effective 7.5% pay cut (employer paid Social Security / Medicare / Medicaid tax)

The employer skipping out on taxes is not a "pay cut".

And the employee also gets to skip out on taxes.

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rembicilious1y ago

You may have been downvoted because you seem be ignoring the point gp post. By working under the table, the nanny or gardener or handyman can (often fraudulently) qualify for government healthcare and welfare programs as well as other low income assistance. In my opinion those programs are of a greater benefit than the ones you listed.

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vharuck1y ago

smileysteve1y ago

> Both parties may feel that complying with tax and labor laws is too much of a burden.

That's - a way - to phrase:

- facilitate an effective 7.5% pay cut (employer paid Social Security / Medicare / Medicaid tax)

- avoid being properly compensated for overtime (assuming non exempt salary),

- and make claiming unemployment, disability benefits more difficult

When you refer to both, can you emphasize a specific burden the employee is subject to other than reduce tax benefits on disability / social security?

Dylan168071y ago

> facilitate an effective 7.5% pay cut (employer paid Social Security / Medicare / Medicaid tax)

The employer skipping out on taxes is not a "pay cut".

And the employee also gets to skip out on taxes.

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rembicilious1y ago

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