There is even a dashboard, and a playground UI to manage it (that you can even run yourself) . Beautifully decentralized, you have full control of everything, you can deploy on your own servers if the cost of the cloud is too much. You can even run the whole system yourself if you want to.
Here is a link to documentation https://manual.grid.tf/
Also, we are honored if it piqued your interest, and would love to support your testing journey free of charge.
“Local first” and “federated” are perhaps more accurate anyway.
The whole system is 100% opensource, you can run it on your own terms (we would be happy if other people based on our work and expanded further)
Tokenomics aside, I'm sure https://manual.grid.tf will show very interesting bit, And please keep in mind that the system works .. quite well actually (and it's opensource if you like the idea, and don't like the execution :)
Developers: https://manual.grid.tf/developers/developers.html
Sysadmins: https://manual.grid.tf/system_administrators/system_administ...
Edit: added sysadmin and..
Haven’t finished reading yet, but generally the internet is never free and always costs some one. I’d be concerned how it would be paid for.
There're various definitions of free, e.g it will cost power and bandwidth for sure, but free as in totally decentralized as owned by the people? they get to decide how and where their workloads are hosted :) you can connect a server in your basement and I deploy my workloads on it or you can even host your website (trusting other human beings on your own terms :) )
No offense to the creators, I appreciate anyone shipping something new, but this has been tried many times without success. HNT being the largest example.
Also, isn’t ICP be the same concept?
I'm not sure I know ICP, it'd be great if you could link, It's always good opportunity to understand more
I have to say we have tons of resources ready to be used! and would love to help our wherever fits :)
... What even is a "token"?
I want to buy compute to execute XYZ functions at Tk TPS - how do I predict the monthly operating cost? (in dollars, obviously)
Your feedback is very appreciated, and definitely we don't want to be seen as a crypto project. While in this current iteration we have that utilization token, I understand cryptocurrencies doesn't resonate well with too many scams. We are seeking a way out of that situation to be honest.
Not just that, the whole process of obtaining and using crypto is also why I don't like it, especially when it's very obscure tokens
If I ignore the crypto part of this, I really do like it.
You can fold the current company, start a new, cryptoless one, and then share a post about it on HN. I'd bet all of my coins that will get a lot more love here and in the wild
And main thing that separates us from all of these crypto projects, is we actually delivered the infrastructure, reproducible, that works :)
I don’t want a cloud run by randos. If I’m gonna run in a cloud I want to know who runs it and see their ToS and privacy policy etc.
If this took off the first thing you’d see happen is people running infrastructure to steal data from people who host on it.
You can find the terms and conditions here https://library.threefold.me/info/legal/#/
and everyone is also welcome to run the current cloud or replicate their own :)
If this is that, then great. Problem is that as soon as I see a reference to cryptocurrency I assume it’s either a scam or a platform for scams.
The term decentralized makes me think it’s a platform for local apps that talk to each other. That is also great but does not appear to be what this is.
So I think there’s a huge problem with how this is being presented.
At first glance I had the impression of a decentralized crypto funded cloud and my mind goes directly to a homogeneous cloud of crypto miner like entities that are providing the capacity. But this system isn't trust free so that Idea can't work. Now I understand the core aspect of the product to be a open framework that horizontally scalable cloud infrastructure can be built on. I'm not sure what the best path is but judging by this comment section, the crypto funded capacity seems to be a somewhat unhappy marriage with the core product, at least in the current post crypto boom landscape.
In any case, I wish you the best of luck with this project.
How are you handing security? What controls are in place to make sure hardware owners can’t access data being hosted or processed?
As a in real life technological solution it is a trainwreck waiting to happen. sort of like an incidental botnet or worse.
The idea is very flexible it can be converted to different kind of models
- Model 1: Global grid of resources where you choose (entrusted person, could be even yourself) to deploy your workload on their servers, and that's what a capacity provider offers with their SLAs - Model 2: You can replicate the whole infrastructure yourself (region level e.g gov) so you can build e.g for your own company (there you have full control)
So the way I see it, as administrator, I plan my deployments to be hosted on some reliable servers and I plan everything around redundancy (here's an example to host nextcloud https://forum.threefold.io/t/threefold-guide-nextcloud-redun... )
and there's a space for services that does such planning for the users :) I counted from 1, excuse that honest mistake :)
To open-source projects, We would love to provide you with resources for as long as your project needs e.g in terms of virtual machines, kubernetes clusters to develop/test, run you workflows. All free of charge. No strings attached.
And this also the link for legal information https://manual.grid.tf/legal/legal.html as well
HP Enterprise Hewlett Packard Enterprise HPE wants to help ThreeFold to offer hardware and IT services to the community.
Are you building a centralized datacenter with HPE or are you selling HPE to the community?
