So you are like an 18 year old except you can't have any fun. Why would you want to live like this? You can't ever go to a party, have a drink, or go to a restaurant? Thank you, but I'll stick to eating healthy, exercising, and living my life.
Patient: Doctor I want to live to 100!
Dr: First stop smoking
Patient: Ok I can do that
Dr: Next stop eating red meat
Patient: Sure, that too
Dr: No more alcohol
Patient getting uncomfortable: Ok ok fine
Dr: Go to bed early and get 8-9 hours uninterrupted sleep
Patient: hmm
Dr: And finally, cut out sugar, don't eat so much and do a lot more excercise
Patient: Ok ok ok, and will I then live to 100?
Dr: Eh... probably not but, it will feel like it.
A man is concerned about his health and longevity, so he visits his doctor.
Man: "Doctor, I am concerned about dying before my time. Am I okay?"
Doctor: "Do you smoke?"
Man: "No"
Doctor: "Do you drink wine or beer?"
Man: "No"
Doctor: "Do you stay up late?"
Man: "No"
Doctor: "Do you eat rare red meat?"
Man: "No"
Doctor: "Do you have sex with many partners?"
Man: "No"
Doctor: "Then why the fuck do you care?"
I think there's an in-between. Getting sleep. Fasting. Exercise. Avoiding sugar.
He's on metformin, taking 1500mg in the morning of an extended release, and 500mg extended release in the evening. Normal dosage for this is 500mg/day. Extended release means they stay in his system for 24 hours, no reason to take it in two doses, much less take 4x the normal amount.
He's also on Acarbose, another diabetic med. The recommended dosing for this is 50mg 3 times per day and hes' taking two 200mg doses. This makes no sense, your body eliminates it quickly, halflife of 2 hours. It's also 6x the standard dose.
He's also on Rapamycin, a cancer med or organ transplant med that is immunosupressive. Standard dose is 2mg/day. He's taking 13mg twice a week.
He's also taking Testesterone 6 of 7 days of the week, and half your standard does. Total nonsense.
This guy is going to wreck his kidney and liver with these meds, put himself at high risk of infection and disrupt his endocrine system. And that's just with his prescriptions, not even examining his supplements.
All this to brag that he's as fit as an "18 year old" whatever the fuck that means. I too could probably get "fit as an 18 year old" if I were taking steroids like testosterone and exercised every day. Hell, I be you could too, and probably without the testosterone.
This is the last guy I'd listen to for longevity treatments.
Lazarus is laughing at this man.
Taken literally, it seems that he is starting from the conclusion and working backwards, and may be thoroughly disappointed. The question posed in scientific terms would be more akin to "Are self-harm and decay inevitable?"
It's also a little bit pathetic how some of the ultrawealthy seem to have the hardest time confronting their own mortality.
I was only afraid of death when life had hope. Now that I'm pretty much poverty-trapped, at least for the next few years, I'm fine with death.
Death is for the miserable people in the world. If you have the means to avoid it, your life is good enough to justify avoiding it. Life is great when you have time and low stress, so there's no reason not to try and preserve it.
IME what matters more than wealth is having health and energy. Exploring ways to reduce your exhaustion might be the best use of your time. You can increase your energy by getting a "win" in some way. That can be as simple as successfully introducing one new good habit in your life.
> Now that I'm pretty much poverty-trapped, at least for the next few years, I'm fine with death.
If you're poverty trapped for the next few years, I'll warn you now that death is fairly long term. Longer than a few years for sure.
I really hope you get the break you need, internet friend.
I don't think anyone has those, even the rich.
There have been a couple of times when I felt that way in my life, but then I remember this is the only life I will get, and then I'll cease to exist. I was lucky to be born among the dominant species of this planet, so I better enjoy it while it lasts.
Eventually, against my initial expectations, life got gradually better.
the world would be OK, regardless of anyone going missing. Don't think anyone has such importance that they would cause the world to not be OK by dying.
Being poor does genuinely suck, and a lot of modern society seems to deliberately lean in to that. But I know quite a few poorer folks who still find joy in life, each in their own way. Human beings have always been resilient in difficult circumstances: I don't think we would have lasted through generations of evolution if a difficult life routinely led to despair.
Putting one's resources to best use isn't "pathetic".
If you do anything to maintain your health and longevity, proportional to your resources, then you are doing the same as a rich person with a private doctor.
I expect natural biological death won't be so inevitable long before the end of the century. Sometimes rich people are like everyone else, but living just a little further into the future.
>And of course only the rich pay news outlets to write puff pieces about themselves...
"Hey, international press, I'm spending millions every year, so I can live forever!"
[Cut to hooded figure, sharpening scythe]
<small caps>REALLY?</small caps>
The man has the money and the time to do this and believes in open-sourcing his 'recipe', good for him.
Also on mortality you can accept that your time is finite and still wish to have a disease and pain free old age, the two are not contradictory.
thats still more "living" than the rest of us working class. and perhaps no stranger a hobby than some of us have.
Not even. He's a "middle-aged tech centimillionaire."
What do other wealthy people spend their money on? Big houses and boats and hookers and blow or simply getting more money they don't actually need at the expense of others? Or "saving the world" which often actually causes more problems?
This seems as valid a use of time and wealth as anything. It wouldn't be for me, but I don't find it the least bit sad.
One of the distinct pleasures I remember from the ages of 18 - 25 is _hanging out with other people that age_. They're not going to fall for it, you'll just be a creepy old guy with a ripped body.
Of course I think the point isn't to look 18, although I'm sure they'd pay an extra million of that was an option. I myself feel I understand the desire to want to stay youthful longer, but I'd only want to do so if I could enjoy it. I question how many of these ultra-wealthy are actually enjoying life as much as a nobody who gets to spend most of their time fishing in their boat and not be bothered by anyone.
If I was a billionaire, I'd be more interesting in having some aspect of my brain rebooted. Some aspects of ageing can be staved off through diet and exercise, so I feel like spending millions to not even look younger is of limited value. What I would like is to experience that "spark" of being a young inexperienced brain that's capable of learning new things fast and finding novelty in the world. If I was a billionaire and I could pay to trigger a new "critical period" in my brain, I'd probably do it.
Imagine trying to buy a house when your face says 18 and your ID says 78.
Getting a drink at a bar? Showing ID to vote? Withdraw money from that 78 year old's account? Collect social security?
You're going to get denied at best, and likely accused of identity theft/fraud.
Either way, I don't think this will cause serious inconvenience.
May look up the link if you want.
Without even looking, I'm almost certain the way they technically define "biological age" is misleading, and it resembles what most people think of when they hear "age" like an apple resembles an orange.
I'd be curious how you came to that conclusion - considering that there's currently no known way to objectively measure biological age. Best thing that any researcher can do right now is just measure everything, and that's what they're doing.
You know what they say about measures: they stop being useful when you try to aim for them.
Is this real? Then again he's anti-vaccine so that makes sense.
He isn't anti-vaccine. He doesn't want to personally get a covid-19 vaccine.
In his conversation with BBC media editor Amol Rajan,
Djokovic insisted he "completely disagree[d] with"
anti-vaxxers and said he decided not to get vaccinated
because he had "always supported the freedom to choose
what you put into your body". [1]
Not in the photo in the article, he isn't. Pro bodybuilders get to that for a hours/days during a competition and feel like absolute shit the whole time. He looks about 10%-ish in the photo.
Either the journalist hasn't a clue, or they were given false information by the person the story is about
Body fat at 5-6% for an extended period of time is decidedly _not_ healthy.
2. For the URL field, copy/paste this:
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4. Visit a paywalled site. Click the bookmark button you created above.
5. Enjoy reading the full article.
This, they measure, is beneficial.
Not exactly shocking here. The only big change in "biological age" is the lung capacity, but obviously anyone who exercises daily and does high intensity workouts is going to have drastically better lung capacity than the average joe on which "biological age" is based.
They seem to have no real results beyond the obvious healthy living techniques humans have known for millennia.
I'm not sure sure about this guy.
But maybe his absurd ideas will counteract just enough of the absurdity of reality, at least in his own mind. Nevertheless, I think his income taxes are too low.
I'd be concerned that cyber-eyes would suddenly start showing you "offers from trusted partners".
> There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
As stated in the article and on his site, this is a personal hobby of his.
If it's not your thing, don't crap on him, just move onto the next story.
It may be hard for you to believe, but other people enjoy doing things you might not enjoy.
They are having fun.
This is their idea of having fun.
Whenever it comes up that I run really long races, I always hear "Oooh, I could never do that."
All I am thinking is "Yeah. That's probably why you're not doing that. You don't enjoy it. duh."
Ah yes, nothing keeps the body young like performing frequent invasive experimental medical procedures.
For me its more like a mix of my sourrundings and a sustainable life style with more work (physical) and also complementary sport to simulate more like a japanese lifestyle of working for a long time but 'work' will be formed by myself.
Basically having enough money to actually spend my life on myself and not for someone else and this life then should be sustainable.
Extending my skillset through playing (games, lego etc.), art (drawing, sculptering etc.), learning (math, refining english etc.), music & playing an instrument.
And the work part will be a peace of land which allows me to always have a project which has a physical representation. Like it makes a mental difference if i create a 3d character or a game or a program vs. i'm planting a plant and enjoying the fruit.
I'm pretty sure for him and his money is easy to do it like he does and i'm pretty sure the project is unique enough to keep him busy, i'm just not sure though how he is earthing himself and if he doesn't just throw money at something which might not give him the mental enlightment he might search.
Fortunate for me, as soon as i have enough money together to buy a broken down castle/chateue/farm and starting my journey, i will already be at a very natural and hopefully mental positive environment.
Any man with $10 million in the bank is looking for ways to extend their life and if possible experience youth while at it.
This is where the money is folks.. the tech era has formally ended it will walk a decade but slowly.. the life extension era is in full swing.
Welcome to Elysium!
https://archive.is/20230125113549/https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Oh, and that supplement is dried French red wine. I love that they specify it's French.
imagine spending your best years trying to return back to your teen years. how unfortunate.
testosterone make your body burn to death faster, also grow hormone… imho the only proper way to stay young is genetic engineering