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0 pointswatwut3y ago0 comments

> Delaying self-driving cars by one year comes at a cost of up to 1.35 million human lives [1]. That doesn't excuse failures like these, but the context should be understood.

Citation needed. There is nothing so far proving that self driving cars currently have less crashes then humans in comparable conditions. And they disengage in difficult conditions when most crashes happen.

Dont just start with assumption "self driving is currently safer" and then go on blame people for not trusting it.

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moduspol3y ago

> Dont just start with assumption "self driving is currently safer" and then go on blame people for not trusting it.

My claim doesn't depend on that assumption. My claim depends on it being the case someday.

If the US tightens regulations on ADAS today, and that results in the day self-driving cars fully replace human-driven ones being 11 years away instead of 10, it has been delayed one year, at a cost of up to 1.35 million human lives.

watwutOP3y ago

Delaying self driving cars does not come at the cost of human lives, if those cars are not safer then human driver. If they are less safe with current tech, delaying then saves lives.

If they tighten regulation, they are saving lives. Also, mandating companies to put in more testing would force companies to test. Without that, they are economically motivated to make big claims, but to to not invest into reproducible quality.

moduspol3y ago

The current tech is irrelevant. It is not safer than a human driver, but that's not relevant.

If regulation delays the day in the future that it is safer than human drivers and that human drivers are replaced, then it is costing lives. And it would.

The only way it wouldn't is if the regulation saves more lives in the meantime than would have been saved by having self-driving cars ubiquitous sooner, but that's tough to argue when we're already losing 3,700 per day.

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moduspol3y ago

> Dont just start with assumption "self driving is currently safer" and then go on blame people for not trusting it.

My claim doesn't depend on that assumption. My claim depends on it being the case someday.

watwutOP3y ago

Delaying self driving cars does not come at the cost of human lives, if those cars are not safer then human driver. If they are less safe with current tech, delaying then saves lives.

moduspol3y ago

The current tech is irrelevant. It is not safer than a human driver, but that's not relevant.

If regulation delays the day in the future that it is safer than human drivers and that human drivers are replaced, then it is costing lives. And it would.

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