However, if this counts as being "taken by chickens" then it also implies that when a burglar triggers a motion-activated camera, the burglar owns the rights to the image.
No, per the description and your legal context, the chickens are not taking the pictures.
> Are these chicken selfies?
> Yes. The chickens are using an input device (the motion sensor) to invoke a computer function (the capture method on the Pi), which invokes a series of events that results in the photo being taken, uploaded, and shared.
> This is identical to a human using an input device (tapping a button) to invoke a computer function (the post method on Instagram), which invokes a series of events that results in the photo being taken, uploaded, and shared.
Maybe the BUY NFT link on every photo goes to accounts the chickens own. Nothing about NFTs makes any less sense than this, so why not?
But yeah, the the chickens or a burglar steals the cameras and activate them by their own programing, overriding whatever setting they had before, the camera owner won't own the copyright on the photos anymore.
In other words, it's not that easy to lose the copyrights. The burglar just activating the motion-trigger isn't enough.
Think more about cows. Nice creatures. Live in the fields under the sun and that isn't horrific. We eat them. Maybe you had a pet cow? Ok that's fine. There's your pet/food line issue. Most omnivorous humans believe it is possible to treat them with respect in their lives and eat them. Others disagree, of course they do. That's also fine.
As a civilization, we don't treat chickens anything like that. We have factory farms that are utterly horrific, stomach-turning and detrimental to global health and we pretend we kind of pretend don't know that and don't talk about it much.
You don't have to be a vegetarian or keep chickens as pets or even particularly like chickens much (and I don't) to object to those horrors. Factory farms days are numbered. They are beyond what the consumers of factory farms can stomach. They are beyond what we should tolerate in their abuse of the commons of having effective antibiotics. They are nothing like what we think of as farms which are usually some approximation of the family farm. It is perfectly reasonable and defensible to be very proudly meat-eating and want effective reform here. In my experience most do lean that way when they find out what goes on in a shed full of caged chickens.
As much as many people try, there is often no simple black and white answer to humanity's most complex issues.
But often the black and white answer is the one that's printed on the slogan.
Photos taken at unfamiliar angles will present their objects in ways we're not used to seeing. Which makes them less familiar and more stimulating. Which is more interesting.
Secondly, if you open up the depth of field with a very deep scene, you create more possibilities for composition, framing or storytelling. Again, all you have at human eye level is chicken/grass. At chicken eye level, with a very deep focal range, you might also be able to tell the story of the chicken in 'the great outdoors', you may see mountains and forests on the horizon etc.
Hope that helps.
This one for instance has near direct look into the camera, and there's no way you'd get that from human waist or eye level https://chicken.photos/20220611121718
> Yes. The chickens are using an input device (the motion sensor) to invoke a computer function (the capture method on the Pi), which invokes a series of events that results in the photo being taken, uploaded, and shared.
> This is identical to a human using an input device (tapping a button) to invoke a computer function (the post method on Instagram), which invokes a series of events that results in the photo being taken, uploaded, and shared.
Is it really "identical" though? A human knows they're taking the selfie and sees the result. The chickens do not.
When I was kid I used to work summers on a family-owned free-range chicken farm. I remember being fascinated by the behavior of chickens. I also spent a lot of time figuring out if they could remember me, and some did remembered and where more keen on approaching, they were totally conditioned by the fact that I used to give them some different kind of grain food. They even made the trip to the house about 30 meters away, just these few ones. Of course they probably remembered the food but I was still happy with my accomplishments in the field of human/chicken colaboration.
It's like having toddler dinosaurs bumbling around and having little adventures for your entertainment.
A motion sensor is not an "input device," it is a sensory monitor with thresholds and triggers controlled by the architect of the system, not the thing being monitored. This is evidenced by the fact that several of the photos were triggered by something other than the chickens, such as a lawn mower.
If I create a system that drops paint on a canvas when the temperature reaches 80 degrees F, it would be nonsense to assert that the sun had painted a picture. I painted a picture, and the sun was one of the tools I used in place of a brush.
> A motion sensor is not an "input device," it is a sensory monitor with thresholds and triggers controlled by the architect of the system, not the thing being monitored.
Is a microphone an input device? Does it depend on whose voice is captured? Or whether the speaker knows their voice is being captured?
> it would be nonsense to assert that the sun had painted a picture.
The action of the Sun is the proximate cause of the dropping paint. It is not under your control (unlike a brush), and it is not deterministic (though perhaps it is somewhat predictable). The Sun has more control over the result than you do, but the Sun is predictable enough that you feel like you have control.
All this is aside from the argument that the Sun is the ultimate author of all creative works on Earth. Which of course it is!
Edit. Link to relevant Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
and do I take the picture when I push the button on my camera or do we really take the pictures when we start looking at them?
I'm not sure why this is supposed to be interesting.
I’m perfectly happy to not support or share crypto cash grab schemes dressed up as wholesome little projects.
Wow, some expensive eggs! Is it because these chickens are now celebrities? :)
Kidding aside, I just bought a box of 10 eggs today for 4 euros (~4,15USD) and thought that was a bit expensive. Also from free-range chicken.
I can find "egg prices around the world", but I can't find a single site where I can filter results by the size of eggs and type of chickens. Here's an idea for a really unneeded SaaS!
“We don’t want to do it, but if you are really going to pay this, we’ll make it happen.”
I was quoting some wood deck and lawn work this spring. I had four people come out to quote, and two gave me fuck off prices about 3-4x what I eventually paid.
EDIT: for reference on good eggs, I’ve found duck eggs to be superior to chicken eggs.
Hoping to get a coop up later this year and start experimenting!
Maybe it's a typo. Perhaps he meant $20/dozen.
Which is still expensive. I get my eggs from a farmer 30 miles out of town, and she only charges $8/dozen, and that includes delivering it to my doorman. But I only order when she's recently slaughtered another farm animal, to make it worth the trip for her.
Excellent about page.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
Nice work.
This is somewhat charming surveillance footage at best.
I was expecting I will see photos of chicken taken by chicken wearing GoPro, though dunno what would be trigger.
I was always hoping the chickens would chase the deer but they just ignored them.
To test the claim with a similar example, let's say I run a red light which triggers a red light cam to take a picture of me and my car. I don't think I can claim that I took that photo, or that it is a selfie.
