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0 pointsBoorishBears4y ago0 comments

Dart is not fhat much better.

In a period where most languages are experiencing a "rebirth" as a well thought out modern language, Dart feels like the "before" waiting for an "after".

I'd be deeply disappointed if we had progressed from Js to Dart, and it's why I'm not a fan of Flutter

(Java => Kotlin, Obj C => Swift, Js => Ts, Erlang => Elixr, etc.)

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pjmlp4y ago

> Java => Kotlin,

If you are speaking of Android, yes.

On the JVM is it just one more guest on the building.

https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2021/4

BoorishBearsOP4y ago

Not really...

Groovy was never really in the building and is just awful.

Scala is like a reimagining of the building that happened to find the old foundation useful.

Clojure is like a skybridge from the Lisp skyscraper across the way.

Kotlin is the only JVM language that's gained traction while aiming to be Java but better, the rest just happen to use the JVM, but calling them "evolutions" of Java would be deeply misleading.

pjmlp4y ago

It gained traction on Android thanks to Google pushing it over their creptic Java implementation, while pretending anything beyond Java 8 never happened.

It will follow the path of every other JVM guest language.

I will care when the JVM gets a single line of Kotlin commit.

Google should just buy JetBrains and rename ART into KVM.

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0 pointsBoorishBears4y ago0 comments

Dart is not fhat much better.

In a period where most languages are experiencing a "rebirth" as a well thought out modern language, Dart feels like the "before" waiting for an "after".

I'd be deeply disappointed if we had progressed from Js to Dart, and it's why I'm not a fan of Flutter

(Java => Kotlin, Obj C => Swift, Js => Ts, Erlang => Elixr, etc.)

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pjmlp4y ago

> Java => Kotlin,

If you are speaking of Android, yes.

On the JVM is it just one more guest on the building.

https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2021/4

BoorishBearsOP4y ago

Not really...

Groovy was never really in the building and is just awful.

Scala is like a reimagining of the building that happened to find the old foundation useful.

Clojure is like a skybridge from the Lisp skyscraper across the way.

Kotlin is the only JVM language that's gained traction while aiming to be Java but better, the rest just happen to use the JVM, but calling them "evolutions" of Java would be deeply misleading.

pjmlp4y ago

It gained traction on Android thanks to Google pushing it over their creptic Java implementation, while pretending anything beyond Java 8 never happened.

It will follow the path of every other JVM guest language.

I will care when the JVM gets a single line of Kotlin commit.

Google should just buy JetBrains and rename ART into KVM.

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j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse