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0 pointsboringg5y ago0 comments

I am very aware of who runs China. Which is why I asked the question - are there any organizations within China that have any real power.

My suspicion is that the CCP has no real effort or interest and the lack of people able to answer with a: Yes the CCP is seriously trying to protect the environment/ecosystem/species through the following things likely speaks to the lack of interest/initiative.

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mattmaroon5y ago· 4 in thread

There are no organizations in China that oppose the government openly. At least not for long. The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house.

The CCP cares about the environment insofar as it benefits China. They probably do not care about a fish going extinct the way we do.

webmaven5y ago

> There are no organizations in China that oppose the government openly.

True insofar as that goes, but the government isn't monolithic. At least, not entirely. Ministries do jockey for power among themselves, and the Ministry for Ecology and Environment has gained/consolidated responsibility and authority under Xi (somewhat similar to the formation of DHS in the US).

boringgOP5y ago

That sounds highly suspect: "The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house."

w75y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van

PRC does not deny they exist, nor denies that organs are harvested after. There are pictures of them online, and notable cases where it was the officially recorded method of execution.

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sudosysgen5y ago

It's technically true. When someone is sentenced to death in a remote area without the resources for an execution, a mobile execution van may be dispatched.

And some of those have been dissidents.

Organ harvesting for executed victims has happened in the past. Officially, the practice has ended but there is no way to verify.

China executes a lot of people.

xtian5y ago

The CPC does in fact take ecology seriously. You can read about it in this translation of their latest five year plan proposal: https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/t0237_5th_Ple...

If you want a concrete example showing that this isn’t just propaganda, you can look into China’s reforestation effort, through which 66 billion trees have been planted since 1978 (enabling many at-risk species to bounce back).

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