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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van

PRC does not deny they exist, nor denies that organs are harvested after. There are pictures of them online, and notable cases where it was the officially recorded method of execution.

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boringg5y ago· 3 in thread

Well that was a wikipedia link that felt ill to read. Assuming accuracy my apologies for the doubt.

sudosysgen5y ago

I'm going to make you feel a bit more ill - contrary to the intro of the article, the PRC did not actually invent the mobile lethal injection van in 1997.

The first ever mobile lethal injection van was actually, as far I know, from Delaware in 1986 : http://www.doc.delaware.gov/deathrow/history.shtml [1]

Beyond lethal injection vans, around a half dozen countries also employed gas chamber vans, with the first known example being in Nazi Germany.

[1] For some reason Wikipedians came to a consensus that only Chinese execution vans should be mentioned in the article titled "Execution vans".

mattmaroon5y ago

No problem, it does sound like fiction.

boringg5y ago

Dystopian fiction.

monocasa5y ago· 2 in thread

Oh wow, there's been heavy editing of that page since I last saw it. All references to the US's lethal injection vans removed for not being "relevant to the article".

sudosysgen5y ago

Probably the fact that organ harvesting of executees was done in other countries too. But yes, Wikipedia as time goes on is not the best source for politically contentious content.

I used to not really notice it because I actually agreed with the ideological slant of Wikipedia, but contact with other, non-English Wikipedias has seriously forced me to reconsider and now I don't trust any Wikipedia on politically charged content.

monocasa5y ago

Nah, it was that we in the US had lethal injection vans for a while for a lot of the same reasons as China. We transitioned to lethal injection because it was seen as more humane than hanging or firing squad, but our more rural jurisdictions didn't have the resources to retrofit their prisons on the time table that politics required, so instead would share "mobile lethal injection facilities" starting in the 80s.

And yeah, in my mind Wikipedia has fallen from what it promised to be originally. It's so easy to slant the tone of an article by careful deletion; it's an assymetric battle against free exchange of information.

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7 comments · 2 top-level

boringg5y ago· 3 in thread

Well that was a wikipedia link that felt ill to read. Assuming accuracy my apologies for the doubt.

sudosysgen5y ago

I'm going to make you feel a bit more ill - contrary to the intro of the article, the PRC did not actually invent the mobile lethal injection van in 1997.

The first ever mobile lethal injection van was actually, as far I know, from Delaware in 1986 : http://www.doc.delaware.gov/deathrow/history.shtml [1]

Beyond lethal injection vans, around a half dozen countries also employed gas chamber vans, with the first known example being in Nazi Germany.

[1] For some reason Wikipedians came to a consensus that only Chinese execution vans should be mentioned in the article titled "Execution vans".

mattmaroon5y ago

No problem, it does sound like fiction.

boringg5y ago

Dystopian fiction.

monocasa5y ago· 2 in thread

Oh wow, there's been heavy editing of that page since I last saw it. All references to the US's lethal injection vans removed for not being "relevant to the article".

sudosysgen5y ago

Probably the fact that organ harvesting of executees was done in other countries too. But yes, Wikipedia as time goes on is not the best source for politically contentious content.

monocasa5y ago

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