Early revolutionaries are always seen as criminals. Only in retrospect and only after they provoke major changes in the society does the society recognize them as some kind of heroes. But until that happens, they will be persecuted and some of them caught and treated like criminals. And I'm not saying they are completely innocent or anything. But all revolutionaries eventually provoke some damage. But that damage is insignificantly small compared to the changes they eventually cause.
Things are definitely getting really interesting, and I think this is just the beginning. The more the Governments will try to censor the Internet (which seems like the case lately), the more of these people will rise to fight against them. My money is on them.
Relevant quotes:
"Those who make revolutions half way only dig their own graves" and "History is written by the victors."
LulzSec on the other hand just wants 'lulz', they'll try to hack anyone and anything, and probably fail a lot, but when they succeed they get a lot of media coverage. They pretend to be doing it to make people aware of security, but either it's a front or they're just that naive.
Anon has a goal, and what they do is an attempt to achieve it, LulzSec's goal is to do damage. I for one fear that LulzSec will push governments into cracking down on w/e is left of the 'free' internet.
So we'll see if that's what will happen. They are pretty unpredictable, but I think they'll get caught up in this and continue doing it for the good of everyone.
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These people are certainly not the Thomas Jeffersons of our time.
Y'know, like... here.
It's easy for somebody who follows the issues closely to deride this as misinformed paranoia, but I wonder what a lay person, even one who had heard of the two groups, would think about their respective motivations and capabilities. It could well be that the people who advise on these decisions simply saw the name "LulzSec" and, knowing something about Internet culture, assumed they were connected to Anonymous and shared common desires. What's scarier, that person could rightly be considered an expert on the matter in most lay groups.
Once when someone got arrested (headline "HACK THE LAD"), and once an 'exposé' about the arrested teenager sniffing gas (headed "OFF HIS INTERNUT!").
The symbol of the French revolution was the guillotine. The freedom of the people wasn't won with good behavior. Just saying.
Some people I spoke to that are against the Internet filter say they are not switching because of the contract. I pointed out that the filter is not voluntary for Telstra customers and so it's not part of contract unless they remain within a period of time. Then they tell me they don't want change.
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Modern switches can also drop packets based on reasonably complex ACLs (which in practice is much of what DOS products did). The real cost of DDoS attacks is the focused engineering time required to design and implement mitigation for each and every one of them.
I wonder if all those ISPs considering implementing draconian piracy controls are fearing the same kind of retribution.
Could it be that it will be these few and scattered children which arrest the slide into fascist information control toward which we seem to be headed? It still seems incredibly unlikely - yet for the first time it suddenly seems possible.
We need a more effective way to jerk their chain than by committing crimes: with 4Chan/LulSec, we risk losing the propaganda war, dramatically.
What I think of, though, is that now that Telstra has announced they are scared of LulzSec (whether or not they really are), they made themselves the perfect target. They have admitted they are willing to be coerced. So what should LulzSec do? They should target Telstra hard, immediately, and just sit on the information. Wait and see what Telstra does, and once they start acting on something LulzSec doesn't like, threaten to drop the information. And then of course they will do it anyway at some point because they are in it for the lulz. But in my mind, Telstra has made themselves target #1 for LulzSec over the next few days.