>It is the World’s FIRST Consumer-level Linux Tablet.
ExoPC 2.0 came out in 2010, running MeeGo, which was a linux tablet that shipped with an OS maintained and hosted by the Linux Foundation.
>It is the FIRST Tablet powered by JingOS – the World’s FIRST Linux Tablet OS.
MeeGo, MaeMo, and the associated tablet OSes from that era shipped over a decade ago.
>It is the FIRST Time you can use a Linux-based Tablet as your daily driver.
To be fair, the ExoPC was a huge piece of crap.
[1] https://linuxdevices.org/freepad-norways-alternative-to-swed...
They sound pretty much like they are Linux systems that beginning to let down the facade.
To be fair there was no touch OS then - it was mostly stylus driven at the time. I don't think any of them had implemented multi-touch gestures for example, but please correct me if I am wrong.
Meego had multi-touch support, though it was only used at an application level (e.g. pinch to zoom in browser, maps, gallery etc).
I've thought about using an iPad as dev machine (obviously it's not linux, but ssh+termux is basically the same) because of the form factor and battery life. But M1 chip solved that problem to me.
I just don't see why you want to run linux on a tablet, what else other than the command line draw you to linux? It's certainly not windows X. Tablets are just not very friendly to interact when the subject is a terminal.
First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork.
Second, even if you don't count Android, there's still Ubuntu Mobile, and PostmarketOS, and Sailfish, and Mobian, and others, all of which existed before this as far as I can tell.
Third, this website is drowning in rough marketing speak, with little substance.
I came in with high hopes, but am unimpressed. Maybe this is overly harsh, it's definitely a hard market.
Edit: The closer I look, the more unconvinced I get. I wish you luck, but maybe get something to show first next time.
Meh, and the integrated Google spyware baked in? (because most Android is not LineageOS out there anyway), so there's a dire need for alternatives anyway.
There is also no way for end users to update their Android devices, so you end up with something disposable the day you purchase them.
> Ubuntu Mobile
They changed their name btw, and its still shipping with a terrible browser, and based on outdated sources (did they even move to 18.04 yet?)
> PostmarketOS
Not usable in touch mode
> Not usable in touch mode
Are you thinking of a specific user interface? Phosh is quite usable, among others. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/User-Interfaces
My issue is they acted like this is something groundbreaking and unheard of, while what they've shown is either something that's comparable to other options in the space (Their software looks like branded Plasma Mobile), or vaporware (I won't trust them to deliver hardware, until they actually do.)
Edit: My other issues are located at the bottom of this page. This company has lost any hope I had for it.
Well, you can download and install right now[1][2] (see "Download" in the nav bar), although the download link is currently gated by an email collection form which is somewhat unfortunate. (They do send you an .iso download link, yes I verified.) So saying they don't have something to show is inaccurate and misleading. Maybe you meant something groundbreaking to show?
Edit: Oh you're probably talking about hardware.
[1] https://forum.jingos.com/t/jingos-v0-6-release-download/514
Unless they've got access to more closed source drivers, the number of devices targetable with this is going to be comparable anyways.
Android can be hacked into a passable system, but notice that termux is no longer in the Play store because of locked down permissions and expects further breakage from upcoming OS changes.
On the other hand, completely agreed that there are good options available and inbound, so until they actually ship this warrants some skepticism.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux&hl=...
I want more options, I'm just unconvinced this is it.
Linux is not as tuned for battery life as android, but they claim 10 hours from their 8Ah. Believable.
11", 6.7mm, 500g, 8 core ARM (model not specified; should be the 7x line).
Bet it will cost far more than a comparable Android tablet (which can run termux).
On devices that run both that I have (had), Linux always wins (by a very large margin). It does take tweaking and running i3wm, but Android is a hog compared in my experience. As is Windows.
Even just adding auto-cpufreq helps, but I'm not sure why TLP isn't.
Linux... epoll, and peace.
It’s probably an understandable misnomer for NAND/flash storage.
Apple labels this as "Capacity" (iOS) and "Storage" (Mac) which are maybe better terms.
That's a no from me.
Though really there are only so many variations on "flat rectangle with screen" you can do, it's hard to come up with an obvious design that isn't in use by someone.
But pragmatically, how does something like this stack up against an iPad/iPadOS? If I'm to believe the press, Apple's chips are quite a ways ahead of the competition. And as much as I love developing on Linux running lxqt, I get the impression that display stacks and application development kits are also way behind in terms of efficiency, power use, and just general programmability/accessibility. Am I a victim of bad press. I'm honestly curious whether they're even in the same realm.
If anything, something old school like Enlightenment or Sawfish would be fun to play with on one of these, just for the sheer "trick it out" ethos.
It's not completed yet, but it's already looking awesome. Timon (a.k.a. Professor Fartsparkle, or just "professor") even managed to source a beautiful 2560x1600 10" screen.
Works nicely. Screen can be rotated not problem.
Q4OS is a Debian derivative (Buster I think): https://q4os.org/
I would hazard that most consumers wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference with current hardware, especially as an e-reader. They don't tell us what they have or how much memory is installed, but if it is a convertable laptop with a touchscreen or similar then I would try Gnome. You will have a much better time for a simple e-reader.
If it is memory contrained, or ends up being an Atom processor then perhaps a lighter desktop might be better.
I am not too excited though:
1. With their current, x86_64 only release, GPL violations have been alleged.
2. PowerVR graphics make mainlining this device unlikely, meaning that it’s going to be stuck on a Vendor kernel and libhybris, as that Vendor kernel has likely been released with Android devices in mind. This is OK, but it’s not good long term.
3. Their marketing is a bit over the top, full of lofty claims that often aren’t technically true as has already been discussed here.
If they don't release the source and the custom drivers and patches they use to power the device then they'll probably be in violation of GPL but I'm not sure of the specifics tbh. I do agree that something like this will definitely help the development of touch screen devices on Linux.
Heck, some phones reaching the size of my Nexus 7!
The transitions aren't as fast and smooth as they claim but the work has merit no doubt. The test tablet resembles the earlier ipad with large bezels but if they can deliver even half of what they claim and they'd opensource their code. I'll buy one
>The JingPad Keyboard is inspired by the Apple Magic Keyboard for the iPads. It is a full-size 6 rows keyboard just for productivity!
> JingPad A1 will be available for a crowdfunding campaign on indiegogo before June.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Unfortunately Samsung went to 16:10 with the Tab S4 onwards. It's simply too tall in portrait and too wide in landscape, especially for something like the 12.4" Tab S7 plus.
I recently snapped up a Chuwi Hipad Plus (awful name!), which is an 11" 4:3 Android tablet for this reason. It's far better to use when typing, or reading PDFs. I could not care less about "black bars" when I'm watching the occasional video.
