Alternatives to Tableau?

16 pointsmynameismonkey8y ago29 comments

After four months of training our data analysts how to use Tableau Server, I've just now found out Tableau won't let me serve Tableau content from our Tableau server without jumping from a $6k/year spend to a $72k/year spend, just to enable the "guest" viewer account to view the visualisations.

Has anyone run into this, or had a good experience with an alternative to provide something similar? Else we will be begrudgingly reverting to Highcharts, Indiemapper and SAS/Graph.

16 pointsmynameismonkey8y ago29 comments

Has anyone run into this, or had a good experience with an alternative to provide something similar? Else we will be begrudgingly reverting to Highcharts, Indiemapper and SAS/Graph.

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rawrmaan8y ago· 4 in thread

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I've been loving Metabase, and it's free! http://www.metabase.com

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

That is extremely helpful, thank you! One quick question, is iframe the only way to embed content in a third-party app? I couldn't see any other formal way to serve content without going directly to the Metabase instance.

vfaramond8y ago

You can generate a public link which exports the question result in CSV / JSON / XLSX format ;)

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anthonys8y ago

Another vote for Metabase. I used it every day in my last role and would do so again although I don't think it's quite Tableau-level in terms of its analysis and reporting capabilities.

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

Anything seriously missing, or more bells and whistles?

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aceregen8y ago· 3 in thread

How did that happen? Wasn't their pricing for viewer accounts from their website at $35/viewer/mth?

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

I spent an hour on the phone with them yesterday, there are no viewer accounts. Basically I have Server, but it needs a named license to view. Named licenses are 1k down, $200 per year. To get a viewer account or to embed the content elsewhere for viewing I need a different kind of Tableau Server (core-based), of which there is no mention on the sales or pricing pages, but it starts at 72k/yr (non-profit pricing).

My completely misguided understanding was that I would pay for Desktop for the analysts, and Server was where folks could view the stuff. I was wrong. So everyone is now double-licensed, Desktop to do their work, Server to publish their work, and no-one but the very same analysts can actually look at the dashboards unless I add $1k licenses for everyone who needs to see data.

aceregen8y ago

Hmm, the $1000/$200 was their old pricing.

How did they explain the difference between your pricing and what's on their website that says Tableau server is priced for $35/user?

https://www.tableau.com/pricing

tixocloud8y ago

I feel your pain. We're running into that issue and it just absolutely blows my mind why they have this pricing model in place especially when all people care about is data - be it on Tableau Server or through email.

phonon8y ago· 2 in thread

https://quicksight.aws/ ?

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

Trying not to be totally locked in to AWS, although that's where we are for Redshift so it may be much simpler, but heck if I can get their page to work. These auto scrolling pages... I can get to two sections of their page but the rest doesn't work or auto scrolls past where I want to look. I could CTRL A and paste into something else to read it, but man that's annoying to work with. Thanks for the link, I'll circle back to it.

phonon8y ago

It's super cheap--worth a look. The useful links are

https://quicksight.aws/resources/

You can connect directly to Redshift.

olympus8y ago· 2 in thread

I'd recommend RStudio. They have a server edition and R is extremely powerful for data crunching. The two downsides are that you'll have to re-code all your dashboards/reports, and R isn't as user friendly as Tableau. This will kill your productivity when switching, unless your analysts are already proficient in R.

https://www.rstudio.com

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

We tend to attract the SAS crowd, I've been trying to get more R in the company but it's not as prevalent as I'd like. That said, this is a useful link, thanks!

olympus8y ago

In the stats world, SAS users are like Mac toting hipsters that have enough spare money to pay extra for a product that "just works." R users are more like the Linux types that grumble about how enterprise products are ruining the world and you can get the exact same capability from free software. They never mention that the learning curve is more like climbing a sheer granite rock face.

If your analysts don't have scruffy beards and stains on their T-shirts then you should stay away from R.

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thorin8y ago· 1 in thread

Depends what you are looking for exactly and what skillset you have. When I was using it jasper reports now owned by tibco had free options.

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

Mainly looking to 1. empower the analsyts to publish without having to talk to engineering to get an app/site/charting created 2. Bring some commonality to interrogation and reporting across different business lines/staff cohorts 3. Make sure we are providing attractive jobs by providing attractive, CV-building tools/skills 3.14. Expose minimally-interactive reports to execs and customers, something above a routine PDF but below a full on data query interface

scapecast8y ago

so I hear a few things from you, also based on your comments in the thread so far. You're using Redshift as your DW, and you want to:

- find a (cheap) alternative to Tableau for data viz

- allow basic self-service analytics for your team

- embed charts into applications

- provide a professional growth platform for data engineers

It sounds a bit like you're trying to build what the folks at Clearbit covered in a blog post:

http://blog.clearbit.com/enterprise-grade-analytics-for-star...

Some suggestions (a few of these tools have been mentioned already):

Data viz:

- Metabase

- AirBnB's Superset http://airbnb.io/projects/superset/

those two are open source products; not that the PM on superset used to work at Tableau... just sayin'...

for data viz & embedding charts:

- Mode Analytics

- Looker

- Periscope Data

- grow.com

- reflect.io (highly recommended, built just for that purpose, but I think they want $60K / year too...)

shoot me a note at lars at intermix dot io - we have a spreadsheet with all the data viz tools out there, a list of some 40+ tools....

huy8y ago

You can try us out.

https://www.holistics.io

Some benefits:

- Designed with the analysts who's comfortable with SQL in mind, thus extremely flexible.

- Extra visualizations catered for product/marketing analytics: Conversion Funnel, Cohort Retention

- We have in-built ETL that helps analysts load data from Excel, CSV, Google Sheets to your reporting DB without bugging engineers

Habesha8y ago

Give Microsoft Power BI a shot. It has a free desktop tool to explore your data quickly, author reports,visualizations and Models and publish them to powerBI service. But you can also leverage Power BI embedded or Power BI as a service to share your reports. an on-premises version is also introduced recently. Research the licensing carefully. https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/

There is a free course on edx Analyzing and Visualizing Data with Power BI https://www.edx.org/course/analyzing-visualizing-data-power-...

https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/

TumbleRoad8y ago

Yikes. I have a lot of my clients who are using Tableau, now moving to Power BI. PBI's got all the functionality in one product so no integration issues. It's cheaper than Tableau but cost is only part of the equation. It's the ability to connect to older on-premises systems like SharePoint 2010 is huge for many that aren't in the cloud or are hybrid. Also, the integration with Microsoft Flow is very attractive. You can kick off Flows from Power BI automatically, when a metric crosses a threshold, making BI self-escalating. I think it's easier to learn Power BI if you know Tableau as well. Lastly, Power BI Mobile is included and is the fastest growing area of use. Executives want everything on their phones and Apple watches. Hope this helps.

nagarajs8y ago

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nomel8y ago

There's

https://spotfire.tibco.com

They have different licensing prices for the different types of users. For example, the web consumers, that use the templates created by others, are much cheaper than the the full analytics license. Scripting in IronPython, custom visualizations in d3.js and .net extensions. Custom data sources in .net.

kpatrick8y ago

SAP Analytics Cloud (which I work on), combines BI, Planning and Predictive.

eyeball8y ago

My company uses qlikview.

http://www.qlik.com/us/

Not privy to prices but I would be surprised if it's less expensive than tableau.

officefapper8y ago

I'm a fan of Kibana

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26 comments · 14 top-level

rawrmaan8y ago· 4 in thread

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I've been loving Metabase, and it's free! http://www.metabase.com

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

vfaramond8y ago

You can generate a public link which exports the question result in CSV / JSON / XLSX format ;)

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anthonys8y ago

Another vote for Metabase. I used it every day in my last role and would do so again although I don't think it's quite Tableau-level in terms of its analysis and reporting capabilities.

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

Anything seriously missing, or more bells and whistles?

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aceregen8y ago· 3 in thread

How did that happen? Wasn't their pricing for viewer accounts from their website at $35/viewer/mth?

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

aceregen8y ago

Hmm, the $1000/$200 was their old pricing.

How did they explain the difference between your pricing and what's on their website that says Tableau server is priced for $35/user?

https://www.tableau.com/pricing

tixocloud8y ago

phonon8y ago· 2 in thread

https://quicksight.aws/ ?

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

phonon8y ago

It's super cheap--worth a look. The useful links are

https://quicksight.aws/resources/

You can connect directly to Redshift.

olympus8y ago· 2 in thread

https://www.rstudio.com

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

We tend to attract the SAS crowd, I've been trying to get more R in the company but it's not as prevalent as I'd like. That said, this is a useful link, thanks!

olympus8y ago

If your analysts don't have scruffy beards and stains on their T-shirts then you should stay away from R.

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thorin8y ago· 1 in thread

Depends what you are looking for exactly and what skillset you have. When I was using it jasper reports now owned by tibco had free options.

mynameismonkeyOP8y ago

scapecast8y ago

so I hear a few things from you, also based on your comments in the thread so far. You're using Redshift as your DW, and you want to:

- find a (cheap) alternative to Tableau for data viz

- allow basic self-service analytics for your team

- embed charts into applications

- provide a professional growth platform for data engineers

It sounds a bit like you're trying to build what the folks at Clearbit covered in a blog post:

http://blog.clearbit.com/enterprise-grade-analytics-for-star...

Some suggestions (a few of these tools have been mentioned already):

Data viz:

- Metabase

- AirBnB's Superset http://airbnb.io/projects/superset/

those two are open source products; not that the PM on superset used to work at Tableau... just sayin'...

for data viz & embedding charts:

- Mode Analytics

- Looker

- Periscope Data

- grow.com

- reflect.io (highly recommended, built just for that purpose, but I think they want $60K / year too...)

shoot me a note at lars at intermix dot io - we have a spreadsheet with all the data viz tools out there, a list of some 40+ tools....

huy8y ago

You can try us out.

https://www.holistics.io

Some benefits:

- Designed with the analysts who's comfortable with SQL in mind, thus extremely flexible.

- Extra visualizations catered for product/marketing analytics: Conversion Funnel, Cohort Retention

- We have in-built ETL that helps analysts load data from Excel, CSV, Google Sheets to your reporting DB without bugging engineers

Habesha8y ago

There is a free course on edx Analyzing and Visualizing Data with Power BI https://www.edx.org/course/analyzing-visualizing-data-power-...

https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/

TumbleRoad8y ago

nagarajs8y ago

nomel8y ago

There's

https://spotfire.tibco.com

kpatrick8y ago

SAP Analytics Cloud (which I work on), combines BI, Planning and Predictive.

eyeball8y ago

My company uses qlikview.

http://www.qlik.com/us/

Not privy to prices but I would be surprised if it's less expensive than tableau.

officefapper8y ago

I'm a fan of Kibana

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