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0 pointsmikeash10y ago0 comments

Why does that count employee social security contributions, but not employer contributions? Both ultimately come out of your paycheck. The fact that social security contributions are split is just a fiction that makes the tax rate look lower.

It also sounds like it doesn't count state and local income taxes, nor property taxes or any of the many other taxes we have the privilege of paying.

The conclusion may well be correct, but the data presented doesn't seem to be nearly complete enough to support it.

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toomuchtodo10y ago

> Why does that count employee social security contributions, but not employer contributions? Both ultimately come out of your paycheck.

Employer contributions don't come out of your paycheck though; for the business, its a cost of doing business.

mikeashOP10y ago

It's specifically a cost of labor. The business spends $X on you as an employee, and you receive $Y. The difference between X and Y is tax. The fact that some of the difference is technically removed before the money is transferred to you, and some of it is technically removed after the money is transferred, makes no difference in the end.

hussong10y ago

In Germany, the employer's contribution to social security is tax-free for the employee and is a fully deductible cost for the employer.

Other benefits (company car, apartment, fuel etc.) are subject to employee's income tax beyond a certain threshold.

Edit: Taking a step back, there is simply a fundamental difference between taxes and payments to social security / different insurances.

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