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0 pointsjblow10y ago0 comments

Whether they don't right this second doesn't matter. Their terms of service say they can. If they decided it was unthinkable that they would ever do this, they could have written their TOS to be less overreaching. But they didn't do that. Therefore they think it's a possibility (if in fact they are not already doing it. Are you so sure? How do you know?)

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dimino10y ago· 3 in thread

They also didn't specifically preclude the possibility of commandeering my computer by pushing an update that'll force me to mine bitcoin for them, but I can be pretty damn sure that's not going to happen.

But let me rephrase anyway: I'll bet everything in my pocket that Windows 10 does not, nor will they ever, keylog every stroke and send it back to Microsoft servers for storage.

I can be sure of this the same way I'm sure about many other things I have no definite proof of -- I see nothing remotely resembling evidence that this might take place.

touristtam10y ago

Windows 10's Term & Condition is wide enough to encompass what ever MSFT might come up in the future to track and catalog you as a good, willing, consumer. MSFT has stated that Windows 10 should be the last version of the OS in the current retail format, and therefore, technically, any update/upgrade will still be considered as Windows 10.

MSFT might not want to log everything you write on their OS, but who knows what they will deemed acceptable tomorrow under the same EULA?

Dylan1680710y ago

The license agreement should be set up such that installing a bitcoin miner is not allowed despite not being explicitly mentioned. Same for key logging.

Companies need to get out of the habit of writing terms of service that permit the world.

wila10y ago

> I'll bet everything in my pocket

and as we don't know what is in your pocket, the bet is off. :)

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