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0 pointspron10y ago0 comments

Oh, if you believe in singularity I think that argument pretty much does it. Of course, that's pretty circular, because if you believe in singularity you believe that there's a good chance AI could become a god of sorts and who wouldn't believe such a threat coming from a god?

While not implausible, I don't think that is likely at all. For one, even a very smart person can't know everything or learn too much information. Maybe an artificial intelligence will be just as limited, just as slow as humans, only a little less so. Who says the AI is such a great hacker?

I mean, if it wasn't an AI but a smart person, would you believe that? Is anyone who's smart also rich and powerful even if they have high-speed internet? That reflects the fantasies of Yudkowsky and his geek friends (that intelligence is the most important thing) than anything reasonable. Conversely, are the people with most power in society always the most intelligent?

It is very likely that the AI will be extremely intelligent, yet somewhat autistic, like Yudkowsky's crowd, and just as powerless and socially awkward as they are.

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vidarh10y ago

You don't have to believe in the singularity at all for this argument. You just have to believe the AI will be able to get sufficiently advanced to cause a sufficient level of damage.

> Maybe an artificial intelligence will be just as limited, just as slow as humans, only a little less so.

Only you can duplicate them with far more ease, and have each instance try out different approaches.

So if an AI reaches human-level intelligence at sufficiently low computational costs, we can assume that even if something prevents it from scaling up the intelligence accordingly, it will be possible to scale up the achievable goals dramatically through duplication the same way humanity is able to achieve far more through the sheer force of numbers than even the smartest of us would be able to achieve on their own.

EDIT: you don't even need to assume they'll be able to reach the intelligence of a particularly smart human. A "dumb" AI that has barely enough intelligence to just figuratively bash their collective, duplicated heads against enough security systems for long enough to find enough security holes might be able to cause sufficient damage.

pronOP10y ago

I don't think so. Who says that the "duplicate" AIs will share the same goals? They'll probably start arguing with one another and form committees. Just like people.

I am poking fun, and I'm not discounting the possibility that AIs could be dangerous (as could people, viruses and earthquakes). But it's very hard not to notice how the singulariters' belief in noncorporal-intelligent deities is a clear, a bit sad, reflection of their own fantasies.

Yudkowsky and friends like to argue for what they call "rationality" (which is the name they give a particular form of autistic thinking imbued with repressed fantasies of power -- or a disaster only they can stop -- which is apparent in all of their "reasonable assumptions"), but their "larger than zero probability" games could be applied to just about any dystopic dream there is. I can say true AI won't happen because a virus epidemic would wipe out the human race first; or over-population would create a humanitarian disaster that will turn us back into savages; or genetic research would create a race of super-intelligent humans that would take over the planet and wipe-out all AI, and I could go on and on.

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