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0 pointsjacobolus10y ago0 comments

> Apple using a standard connector, dream on.

Apple is clearly pushing heavily behind the scenes in both the USB-IF and with Intel/Thunderbolt to drive USB Type C ports. Reportedly their engineers did much of the work designing the port. Looking at their one-port Macbook, they’re obviously heavily invested in USB Type C’s success. I assume every future Mac is going to be mostly USB Type C ports. Can you clarify what you mean with your comment?

I’m guessing iPhones will stick with Lightning on one end for at least the near future though.

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genericuser10y ago

I just want to thank you for qualifying your description of Apple's contribution to USB-C in a correct manner, as opposed to perpetuating the myth that Apple invented USB-C. It's initial conception having come out of the USB 3.1 development by AMD, HP, Intel, and Microsoft. It is refreshing to see someone not spreading the revisionist history that has been popular on this subject.

jacobolusOP10y ago

My external non-expert impression (which could be totally off-base; I don’t have inside sources) is that folks making devices like phones and tablets were jealous of the reversibility, faster battery charging, and size advantage Apple could obtain with Lightning jacks, compared to the ridiculous extended USB 3.1 Micro-B jack, and started clamoring for a better connector sometime in ~2012. Once Apple realized such a new connector would be coming with or without them, they decided to throw their weight behind it and make sure that the connector met all of their own needs.

Apple certainly isn’t the only party (or even the main party) responsible for the new connector, but from what I’ve read they do deserve some applause for putting their resources in and making sure the new connector is the best it can be.

genericuser10y ago

That all agrees with how I understand the situation as a fellow external non-expert. I just got really frustrated a while back by all the 'Apple invented USB-C' and even the 'Apple basically invented USB-C' headlines. So wanted to applaud someone for choosing the phrasing 'much of the work' which I believe to be a correct statement, and if incorrect only errors slightly on the side of too much credit.

matthewmacleod10y ago

I have literally never seen anybody claim that Apple invented USB-C, and I read a lot of stupidity. Was this really common?

genericuser10y ago

I saw an awful lot of of articles similar to these search results a while back, and found it a tad annoying. Then again I guess I must of fallen in with a bad crowd if this is the type of stuff I was exposed to. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...

toothbrush10y ago

I admit i'm not super clued-up on this, but i just looked up the new MacBook. Does that mean i have to choose between charging, connecting a video projector, and using some USB hub i'll have to lug around to be able to read someone's presentation of a USB key? I wouldn't want to be in a position where i'm forced to run on the battery in certain circumstances (i'm a bit paranoid about the battery running out -- this is not impossible if one is giving a presentation after having spent a few hours on a train [in a backwards country without power outlets, of course] working hard)...

zaphoyd10y ago

In the short term, yes, except adapters with multiple ports like apple's USB-c To HDMI adaptor that has both an HDMI port and another USB port to plug in power. Long term.. I would expect projectors/displays to supply power to their connected laptop.

lmm10y ago

> Can you clarify what you mean with your comment?

For several years Apple has been the one phone company using a non-standard connector on their phones. I mean, if they switch to USB-C then great - but it's worth saying that Apple is already the one problem company in this area. Everyone else has switched to standard USB and got on with it.

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genericuser10y ago

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matthewmacleod10y ago

I have literally never seen anybody claim that Apple invented USB-C, and I read a lot of stupidity. Was this really common?

genericuser10y ago

toothbrush10y ago

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lmm10y ago

> Can you clarify what you mean with your comment?

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