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0 pointsgolergka11y ago0 comments

From the outside, it definitely looks like the closer it gets to hardware, the better engineers at Apple get. Metal is awesome, Metal shading language and recent clang progress not bad too, Swift a little bit wonky but interesting — but the quality of their customer-facing software, especially ui stuff (not design, but I engineering) is getting worse and worse. It just doesn't "just work" anymore.

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tajen11y ago· 5 in thread

> (Mac OSX UI) doesn't "just work" anymore

Please, if someone can sell a Linux with the same polish as Mac OSX, and as low-administration time, I would agree to pay about $200 per year for it. I've switched away from Ubuntu after being unable to resolve a problem after upgrade two years ago (which cost me 4 days). I spend 2x more on computers for Macbooks, not because of the hardware but because of Mac OSX.

I don't know how large is the audience for a paid workproof Linux, but I wish someone would build it.

cpach11y ago

Yes, that would be very cool. And I say that as a happy OS X user. Competition in that space would be good for the customers. Unfortunately all the workstation companies went down the drain. SGI, Sun, etc. But who knows what the future holds in store?

jeddf11y ago

Dell has done some interesting work with ubuntu on developer edition laptops as far as I understand, focused on support and good drivers etc.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/dell-updates-linux-po...

golergkaOP11y ago

Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I just wish OS X moved forward instead of backwards.

superuser211y ago

>I would agree to pay about $200

You would, everyone else would download the CentOS equivalent, and as consumers we don't need the assurances of first-party enterprise support.

jvictor11811y ago

This. Most devs I know have Macs for precisely this reason -- software, not hardware. If anything, many would prefer the hardware (diversity) offered elsewhere.

visarga11y ago· 2 in thread

For the first time in the last ten years, I have downgraded my OS to 10.9 after having a disastrous experience with 10.10. I don't plan on upgrading back, at least not on this computer.

kagamine11y ago

It's when your Linux distro on a 5 year old HP laptop seems more polished than your 27" iMac from 2 years ago that you begin to wonder what has gone wrong at Apple.

Two days ago I said aloud to a screen ", OS X is turning into Windows".

golergkaOP11y ago

And by Windows, you probably mean your memory of when you last used it as a main OS.

I moved to OS X 5 years ago, and recently I realised that a lot of my assumptions about Windows are no longer true. Now, I contemplate moving back.

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Kalium11y ago

One commenter - I believe it was here on HN - said something I thought was very insightful. They said it's difficult to see software when you're looking at your computer edge-on - and that's apparently the only way Apple ever looks at their products anymore.

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tajen11y ago· 5 in thread

> (Mac OSX UI) doesn't "just work" anymore

I don't know how large is the audience for a paid workproof Linux, but I wish someone would build it.

cpach11y ago

jeddf11y ago

Dell has done some interesting work with ubuntu on developer edition laptops as far as I understand, focused on support and good drivers etc.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/dell-updates-linux-po...

golergkaOP11y ago

Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I just wish OS X moved forward instead of backwards.

superuser211y ago

>I would agree to pay about $200

You would, everyone else would download the CentOS equivalent, and as consumers we don't need the assurances of first-party enterprise support.

jvictor11811y ago

This. Most devs I know have Macs for precisely this reason -- software, not hardware. If anything, many would prefer the hardware (diversity) offered elsewhere.

visarga11y ago· 2 in thread

For the first time in the last ten years, I have downgraded my OS to 10.9 after having a disastrous experience with 10.10. I don't plan on upgrading back, at least not on this computer.

kagamine11y ago

It's when your Linux distro on a 5 year old HP laptop seems more polished than your 27" iMac from 2 years ago that you begin to wonder what has gone wrong at Apple.

Two days ago I said aloud to a screen ", OS X is turning into Windows".

golergkaOP11y ago

And by Windows, you probably mean your memory of when you last used it as a main OS.

I moved to OS X 5 years ago, and recently I realised that a lot of my assumptions about Windows are no longer true. Now, I contemplate moving back.

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Kalium11y ago

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