OO principles are for the limitations of people, not computers.
Ooooh... that's a Point object - no way the AddAccount function does anything relevant with it! In OO you don't even actually need to think that since Point has a limited set of methods.
I can't agree with this opinion. I often find it an annoying restriction that I must put all my functions in a class. Let's look at a trivial example of multiplying a matrix by a vector. You can write
matrix.multiplyBy(vector);
// OR
vector.multiplyBy(matrix);
multiply(matrix, vector); // vector is a column
// OR
multiply(vector, matrix); // vector is a row
To further elaborate why I don't really like OOP (except in a minority of cases where inheritance, etc makes intuitive sense), I think the biggest issue is that classes/objects are the method to do almost everything.
Namespaces, visibility, inheritance, dynamic dispatch, etc are all somewhat orthogonal features. Having a "class" to be the unit that uses all of these features is, in my opinion, a restriction.
Lists (or arrays), tuples (or structs) and Maps (or dicts) are what I want 99% of the time. When programming with Java or similar languages, I feel like the primary means of abstraction and composition in the language is catering to a 1% problem.
I learned programming in the late 90s, early 2000s, during the height of the craziest OOP craze (when "object oriented" was synonymous with "good"), so it took me a while to un-learn all of the OOP methods but I feel like I did turn into a better programmer when I stopped thinking in terms of objects.
OOP is a neat paradigm for some cases, but I find those cases very rare.
import static com.whatever.LinearAlgebra.multiply;
...
multiply(matrix, vector);
"The stove heats the water." An object performing an action on another object (a direct object, in parts of speech), changing the state of the direct object.
So when we code this, it makes sense naturally to write something that is readable in human terms:
stove.heat(water);
This organization of language in this fashion is English-specific though. I wonder what feels intuitive to non-English (or non-Romantic) speakers - is it OO as well, or something else?
water.heat(stove);
heatingStrategy.heat(water, stove);
While I'm no fan of OO as a dogmatic solution to every problem, the differences between it and any other reasonable approach are small for most problems, compared to the complexity of solving the problem itself.
One of the things that's very hard to understand is how much large efforts rely on our ability and understanding to manage and coordinate the effort of all these people providing work input -- yet management science is still remarkably poorly understood.
OO is nice because objects define work-units which are easy to measure and track through a management structure and the development of which kind of map to a work breakdown structure in much the same way assemblies and sub-assemblies go into a bridge or a car in traditional engineering:
Phase 1:
Part A: develop all the classes and methods on each class.
Part B: test and certify components.
Phase 2:
Part A: integrate 1A components.
Part B: test and certify integration.
Phase 3: repeat phases 1 and 2 until you have finished software
"oh team X is working on component (class) A2? when does A2 move to testing? okay, I'll schedule that. You know component B6? Yeah, it failed testing and needs to be reworked, but it shouldn't hold up phase 2: integration."
Lots of people give Java and Java shops lots of flak because the work is unglamorous, but they've semi-succeeded in mapping software engineering to the management science practices that were formulated during the Industrial Revolution...meaning they've turned software development into assembly line work.
This is why good software developers hate working in these places. It would be like a fine watch craftsman going to work on the Timex digital watch assembly line at Foxconn.
The Management Practices that informed OO and drive it are the dominant way to "make stuff on schedule" that humans have managed to come up with. Like it or not, it's why cars get made, t-shirts end up in stores for $10, and your state DMV has an on-line renewal site.
It's interesting to study large software projects that failed as well. SAIC has a couple of well known ones: Virtual Case File [1] and CityTime [2], Healthcare.gov [3] was another good example. It's even more enlightening to compare these failures to big traditional engineering failures: Seattle Tunnel [4], Space Shuttle failures, etc.
One thing to keep in mind. Large software projects are often more complex on raw unit count than even the most complex engineering efforts in history. For example, the Space Shuttle is considered one of the most complex pieces of engineering ever, and it only had 2.5 million parts. [5] OS X 10.4 by comparison has almost 100 million lines of code. [6] It's not a perfect comparison of course, but it does help cement in the magnitude of modern software efforts.
If OO has a failing it's that humans haven't managed to come up with a better way to break complex work down or to define software methodologies that map well to how we know how to manage and coordinate complex tasks. OO works very well when considered in this context, it does more or less what it's supposed to. It's not intended to provide a methodology for elegant or creative software crafted by a single person or small team of experts.
We've learned a lot in the decades since OO has become the dominant force in software organization. And Management Science has improved a couple tick marks as well. The next paradigm shift is likely close. But make no mistake it'll probably be a streamlined OO-like system of trackable, schedulable work components. But it won't happen quickly, literally trillions of dollars in work effort have been put into OO from the software to the management practices.
1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Case_File
2 - http://washingtontechnology.com/articles/2011/10/25/saic-sac...
3 - http://www.cio.com/article/2380827/developer/6-software-deve...
4 - http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/infra...
5 - http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/upgrades/upgrades5.html
6 - http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/million...
Lots of people consider namespacing and packaging up your source well as a way to do this. I think that works up to a point, but once you start hitting really big projects, I think the way that Java enforces and cleans up some of this optional stuff and makes these things as part of the language makes it a little more natural. Instead of having to be careful about your work (meaning if you aren't something will go wrong), you simply have to do the best practice to make progress. On smaller projects, where the manager can review every commit, every line of code, every way that work was done, and can enforce a cohesive and singular idea about how it should be done, it can work. But once the scope expands beyond what one management drone can handle it starts to become something that falls into the next layer of Management Science abstraction.
tl;dr Making things that are optional in some languages into requirements (or the code won't work) seems to have been a good optimization.
Now imagine writing a complex application like Excel, or Photoshop procedurally. It's not impossible. During the Windows 3 series that was actually done.
Here's how it looks :
http://www.transmissionzero.co.uk/computing/win16-apps-in-c/
Read through it. Ideally install Borland C++ in a windows 3.1 in Dosbox and make it work. Then you will fully understand why people switched to OO.
But the more general reason is this : procedural programming doesn't allow you to raise the abstraction level of your code more than a bit. OO allows for more "distant" abstractions. Algorithms that are far further removed from the actual datatype being operated on. Since we've seen a regression in program complexity due to web browsers being the main application delivery method, OO is falling out of favor.
On the other hand, maybe mobile development is simply the pendulum already swinging back. Both android and ios apps are OO apps, by necessity. And as everybody (hopefully) agrees, they beat the pants of websites.
(I still love java I just don't feel like OO is the only languages to get things done)
Java(2.5 years experience) is fairly easy and it has great IDE support etc. And the template thing in OO with a house has a floor and a roof and 4 walls etc. is fine.
But can't you do the same in C (which I have recently started to learn quite intensely)? I know you have to do a little more code but it isn't that much really and C gives you great control over anything really, you can also have it organized into files and such in C just as fine at you would have done in java.
- If I'm complete off please tell me
Yes, you can do the same in C, in fact a lot of people did it intuitively before OO became mainstream. Many of the techinques that make OO design work so nice (encapsulation, loose coupling, strong cohesion) were called simply "modularization" back then.
The advantage of modern OO languages of today is that the techniques are explicit, clear on the language design, they don't depend only on the programmers discipline. Also, they bring a lot of other features hard to implement in C: garbage collection, reflection that provides sleek frameworks and tools for refactoring, etc.
Now why did their boss tell them that ... Often these decisions have all sorts of legacy issues involved which don't make the real reasons all that clear cut - and if one were to really dig back the initial answer is likely "because that's what people say we're supposed to use"
These two sentences jumped out at me. I really like this analysis, because it would explain why object-oriented thinking especially seems to be prevalent in hierarchical organizations. It allows any number of minds to contribute to the design of a system without any knowledge of the technical details of that system.
But OO doesn't work because webbrowsers have detonated a hydrogen bomb of "historic reasons for this API" over the worst UI toolkit ever, and abstractions, whether OO or ..., simply don't work well over this. They make it extremely hard to find where the OO toolkit is incompatible with vendor X's browser version 82.2.1.3.3.883.1.3.4, and harder yet to fix the problem.
It seems like 2014 was the year of having programmers rant against every form of abstraction because they can be misused and because they "hide complexity". Well of course they hide complexity. That's the point. That's what allows us to raise the abstraction level of what we're doing and working on.
A simple shared networked database (also known as CRUD, or to some extent MVP) was a solved problem on NextSTEP before I left kindergarten but in 2014 we all insist on rewriting the whole thing from scratch (can't even use an actual database anymore "it doesn't scale").
When I was a 12 year old discovering dBase writing a networked CRUD application was something you'd do in roughly an hour. Today, a week is not that bad, apparently. When I turned 14, and worked with dBase for windows, putting rich text fields (with working copy-paste from office documents) was less work and finished faster, by a factor of 100. First I wrote them in things like dBase, then Delphi. Then I started writing them in PHP + SQL. This was tedious, but at least it was vaguely manageable. Today, I write them in Bash (for deployment) + Go + SQL + Python + Javascript + JSON, not counting the various configuration languages I need to know. They don't work nearly as well as the things I made in dBase for windows, without a doubt they are less functional than the tools I wrote in Delphi, and they can do vastly less on computers thousands times faster (my first Delphi was installed with 66mhz, 16M RAM and 500M drive) without weeks of work they don't look nearly as good, and they are utterly and completely incompatible with everything else on the planet.
This is why we had OO (the very first book I had on the subject started with how to make OO work for an extensive text editor). That's what's good about it, and why we're not doing it anymore ... I don't really know.
Today we are locked into the web. Any end user has no control whatsoever over their files, over what programs his computer runs (my "standard" text editor is in javascript and gets it's code downloaded from an internet provider that could change it at any time. I, of course, cannot change it), over who can read their files/mail, governments, MPAA, RIAA, and so on get people's mail clients blocked and their mail made inaccessible on a regular basis, ...
Just wondering, but why Go? I ask because Go doesn't have objects, so why not use a regular OO language like C#?
Obligatory ref: http://www.paulgraham.com/reesoo.html
Recently I was showing my coworkers how the type class pattern works in Scala, and was arguing that this was very OO, just not OO the way someone from the Java/C++ branch family tree would think of it - but rather more along the lines of what you see in CLOS, Dylan, R's S4, etc. They weren't buying what I was selling, but I'm still selling it.
During the preceding decades, the object-oriented paradigm had been shown to be highly useful in simulation (Simula) and graphical UIs (Smalltalk), but these use cases were still far removed from the majority of real-world apps.
A lot of people looked at OO's phenomenal success in these fields and extrapolated that all software would soon look like that. "GUIs are going to be the future. Also, all of our software works with real-world stuff. Money exists in the real world, right? Therefore it's an object."
Java certainly didn't start the OO hype. By the time Java hit, the hype had already been in full force for at least 5 years... Borland's CEO announced sometime around 1992 that they would defeat Microsoft by adopting a "full OO" development workflow. At the same time, Microsoft was hyping its own OO concepts and frameworks like MFC.
But Java definitely hit the sweet spot of multiple hype cycles at once with its combination of OO everywhere, web-oriented applet deployment and platform-independent VM.
Academia especially loves naming things and creating structure and hierarchy. OO makes programming sound scientific, like physics or biology or something.
The business world loves the idea that you could have these reusable objects that would let you just fit a program together like legos. Given the huge technology investments, it sounded like a great idea, but it hasn't really worked out that way for the most part.
It sounds silly to think that OO really took off because it feeds on the psychological need to name things, but I think that's a big part of it. Even the Bible says that Adam's first and primary job was to name all the animals of the earth. Even if you aren't a believer, a book written thousands of years ago and handed down from generation to generation where it explains that the first man's job was to name things I think speaks a great deal about how humans are obsessed with names and naming things and have been for a very long time.
In that way, it wouldn't at all be surprising that OO would be successful. If anything, things that take away the ability to name and organize things in a way that people enjoy would be something that fewer people take up unless there is some other psychological benefit that is larger than the benefit of naming and organizing things.
And inheritance is problematic.
[ADT is Abstract Data Type; i.e. values that support operations, and are not tied to a specific concrete implementation]
And the MS evangelism of OO and "flavor of the year arch that also is OO" that was central to their conferences.
So: The most popular language, and the others, and java, all OO.
Outside university, that was the landscape. And inside the university? All tech there give a bad taste, and the impression of be bad, ugly, slow, bad, ugly, slow. Instead, Delphi, Fox, Visual Basic: DELIVER. And them were OO, so OO is the thing.
The global computing paradigm is outgrowing the domains where OOP is useful. And I'm pretty sure that if you look closely enough, there will be OOP under the hood of a great many systems for a long time to come.
The same feature can easily be achieved in functional languages (including javascript), but its performance doesn't scale well at all.
This is the case even in javascript: attaching dynamic functions to object instances performs significantly worse than relying on a prototype chain.
When a function is defined in the prototype chain, it's defined once and shared across all instances.
In Java, when you have a reference to an abstract class, and you call `object.method(args..)`, you don't know which function is being called. It's somewhat like if you have a function pointer/reference and called `method(object, args...)`.
Java lets you do this without losing all the benefits of static type checking.
Maybe we should delete OOP and just talk UML?
First, most languages aren't doing OO the way it was described by Alan Kay who coined the term.
What we have are data structures with procedures that invoke other procedures in data structures.
That's a long way from independent units sending messages to each other. REST on the web these days may be closer to that initial intent.
Not that it means anything special, but I've been busy with this "Object" thing since 1990, trying to figure out what it meant exactly.
C++ (Symantec C++, MS Visual C++ with COM/ATL, Delphi, Tcl with Xotcl, Java with the dreaded EJBs shipwreck, Smalltalk, R, C (including Tuxedo services), Assembly, Javascript, and other languages like Clipper/xBase have been used to deliver client solutions.
A couple of the are not OO at all. Still they worked too.
For the record, I've also given OO related trainings to more than 2000 people over the years (language side, analysis side, system design side) and seen people "getting it" or not. I've been involved in UML (and OMT/Booch/... before that).
At this point in time, a lot of that boils down to being able to partition a system properly based on responsibilities and the team that is available to build the system.
Fred Brook was right, there is no silver bullet.
"OO" designs were quite apt to adjust to changes that were quite probable. But some changes just made them break.
For some systems, the OO approach was really good for remembering what was done. I remember being called to fix an issue in a system that had been running in production for, like 13 years (it was C++). It was easy to figure out how things were laid out, as the pieces were still identifiable.
One lesson is that objects shouldn't be too fine grained. Too many objects and you get the "ravioli" effect.
Good architecture and good coverage of key concerns is what matters. Once this is done, technology can be bent to do one's will.
I do have a personal affinity to objects but with functions and closures, one can get other ways of thinking.
But there is something that has been all wrong for years, namely the fact that a lot of OO languages required to have hierarchies for polyphormism to work. And that's just wrong, and that's why I like Smalltalk for example with the messaging at the core. That's what made Tuxedo apps successful for transaction processing. Messaging, async, ability to decouple. That is more key than structures. And that's been lost for a long time.
Javascript gives more in that regard, despite it being quite a kludge of a language. But it is flexible and has closures, more than a lot of "OO" languages.
I don't thing OO is what made Java successful as OO designs in Java are quite poor and over complicated. Spring gave some sanity back but the core thing is that Java has libraries for a lot of things. Not that it is OO.
My take is that OO is going to be less of the dominant way, and we are entering the age of the polyglot programmer.