Yahoo and Mozilla Form Strategic Partnership (opens in new tab)

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54 pointsxkiwi11y ago16 comments

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bobajeff11y ago· 6 in thread

I think I'd rather Mozilla developed their own search engine since it's such an integral part of the Web now. Google search has immeasurable influence on web sites. As I see it it's as important as the layout/rendering engine in how we experience the web today. Mozilla using Yahoo's search engine is kind of like them using Opera's rendering engine. This is especially important as they now have a web-centric OS.

manachar11y ago

And how would they make money from it?

Right now search only pays if you do advertising. Mozilla's been using search ad revenue from Google and now Yahoo for revenue. If Mozilla gets into the search engine game they'll be getting in to the advertising game. And the advertising game is about serving up your users and what you know about them to the highest bidder.

That doesn't sound like a good fit with Mozilla.

bobajeff11y ago

Well they're showing ads on their newtab page. Also, they've been serving users to Google and now Yahoo search. So I'd say they've already crossed that bridge.

ndesaulniers11y ago

To think, "the Godzilla of Search Engines" [0] would finally become a thing!

[0] http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4578856/mozilla-ceo-on-the-la...

billhendricksjr11y ago

Great suggestion, but it would be very difficult and time consuming to do, no? Sure there are great tools to build on (Solr, Lucene) but Google and Yahoo have 15-20 year head starts on anything Mozilla starts building now.

bobajeff11y ago

It's not really a suggestion. I realize it's an expensive and far flung prospect for them to ever make a successful search engine. That still doesn't change the truth that without their own search engine they have to sit on the sidelines and let other companies grab influence over the development of the web and be in a better position to make web-centric products.

rockzapper11y ago

I'd rather Mozilla don't. Leaves them out of a whole lot of mess. DuckDuckGo is there to fill that void.

pvnick11y ago· 4 in thread

Considering both Mozilla and Yahoo [1] value privacy rights so much this can only be a good thing.

bigphishy11y ago

I read this comment as sarcasm, but mozilla is dedicated to privacy rights. It would be helpful if you clarify what you actually mean.

Edit: After reading your history, I am astonished to see yahoo advocating strongly for online privacy. However, Yahoo is a profit oriented corporation, so I am naturally suspicious.

pvnick11y ago

Not sarcastic at all. Both seem to hold user privacy in high regard (especially Mozilla, obviously. It's one of their core missions).

pavanky11y ago

You didn't add a link for that [1].

pvnick11y ago

Good call, meant to add this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/11/yahoo-nsa-lawsu...

SEJeff11y ago

Yahoo search is just rebranded Bing search:

http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2329566/marissa-mayer...

KwanEsq11y ago

Original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8632749

paulsutter11y ago

Great business model Yahoo. Pay Microsoft to do the search, pay Mozilla for traffic.

teddyh11y ago

So they’re not getting money from Google anymore?

Adblock Plus to be bundled with Firefox in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Or, so I dream, anyway. But I’m sure that Yahoo is just as hungry for those tasty ad clicks (with their troublesome privacy implications) as Google is.

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16 comments

16 comments · 6 top-level

bobajeff11y ago· 6 in thread

manachar11y ago

And how would they make money from it?

That doesn't sound like a good fit with Mozilla.

bobajeff11y ago

Well they're showing ads on their newtab page. Also, they've been serving users to Google and now Yahoo search. So I'd say they've already crossed that bridge.

ndesaulniers11y ago

To think, "the Godzilla of Search Engines" [0] would finally become a thing!

[0] http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4578856/mozilla-ceo-on-the-la...

billhendricksjr11y ago

bobajeff11y ago

rockzapper11y ago

I'd rather Mozilla don't. Leaves them out of a whole lot of mess. DuckDuckGo is there to fill that void.

pvnick11y ago· 4 in thread

Considering both Mozilla and Yahoo [1] value privacy rights so much this can only be a good thing.

bigphishy11y ago

I read this comment as sarcasm, but mozilla is dedicated to privacy rights. It would be helpful if you clarify what you actually mean.

Edit: After reading your history, I am astonished to see yahoo advocating strongly for online privacy. However, Yahoo is a profit oriented corporation, so I am naturally suspicious.

pvnick11y ago

Not sarcastic at all. Both seem to hold user privacy in high regard (especially Mozilla, obviously. It's one of their core missions).

pavanky11y ago

You didn't add a link for that [1].

pvnick11y ago

Good call, meant to add this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/11/yahoo-nsa-lawsu...

SEJeff11y ago

Yahoo search is just rebranded Bing search:

http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2329566/marissa-mayer...

KwanEsq11y ago

Original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8632749

paulsutter11y ago

Great business model Yahoo. Pay Microsoft to do the search, pay Mozilla for traffic.

teddyh11y ago

So they’re not getting money from Google anymore?

Adblock Plus to be bundled with Firefox in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Or, so I dream, anyway. But I’m sure that Yahoo is just as hungry for those tasty ad clicks (with their troublesome privacy implications) as Google is.

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