I expect marijuana legalization will eat away at darknet marketplace weed sales, leaving MDMA and LSD as the top two. Which is exactly how it should be. They can be made in large quantities by moderately-skilled chemists to a high degree of purity and safety, and the Silk Road allows them to be distributed without any violence. It'd be impossible to bulk-search the mail for them. MDMA could be packaged as any white powder and LSD is literally paper.
I hope that this safe availability of MDMA and LSD quenches the misinformation campaigns that have so horribly marred their reputation for the public. Both of them have incredible potential for therapeutic and recreational use.
Could this be selection bias? If you're dead you can't give a bad rating?
Testing kits and services are also available so you could review the quality without even taking the drug.
MDMA almost never kills people, it's far safer than alcohol or most other drugs. The chance of serious selection bias is unlikely.
More likely there is bias because sellers can edit listings without losing the existing rating.
The Silk Road (and presumably the darknet markets that followed it) let any user contest the charge and get their money automatically, which they almost certainly would do if they got MDMA that tested badly.
Further, if this happens too many times, the marketplace will just seize the account. Vendor accounts are expensive, so it doesn't make economic sense to sell bad shit.
From a prior post:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8170989
pstuart 47 days ago
Did you need to go into the k-hole to achieve results?
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lumpypua 41 days ago
Definitely not, but you are going to get weird for 45 minutes.
The study in that forbes article used 50mg intranasally (basically snorted). The earlier study backing ketamine's efficacy[1] used "0.5 mg/kg diluted in saline, administered over 40 minutes by IV pump". Works out to 35mg for a 70kg guy with a drug delivery rate in the ballpark of snorting it.
Redosing protocol is up to you, I'd read both papers, track your mood, and decide something reasonable. [1] dumps a fair amount of K into their volunteers in one part. Basically the 35mg every two to three days. When depression hits hard I do 35mg every one or two weeks, and go up to 3 weeks as I'm feeling better.
I like dissociatives but maaan 35-50mg is pretty much the least pleasant dose. You're not near k-holing but reality is still pretty bent for about 45 minutes. Normal social interaction is totally out of the question for me and my thinking is warped. What works best for me to handle it is putting on an album I can play all the way through, lying down and meditating on the music until I sober up.
Cheers!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/high-times/marijuana-prices-co... http://khon2.com/2014/04/09/colorado-tax-revenue-on-recreati...
Furthermore, it should be noted that Colorado's laws also permit growing and gifting marijuana legally. Why buy it when you can grow it yourself or get it for free from someone who grows it? Sure you can only gift/receive/travel with up to 1 ounce legally and one could also make 16 separate visits (pun intended) to a friends house as well.
Perhaps any or all of these are factors in the price or maybe it is overtaxed to the point that people are still willing to obtain theirs the old-fashioned way.
Yeah, what's a few contract killings among friends...
2. That entire exchange is totally trumped up. This is the exchange the complaint alleges occurs:
BLACKMAILER: Pay me $X. I need it to pay DEBTOR.
DPR: Let me speak to DEBTOR.
DEBTOR: Hello, this is DEBTOR.
DPR: I will pay you $X/4 to kill BLACKMAILER.
DEBTOR: We want $X/3.
DPR: I have had men killed for $X/5, but I will pay you $X/3.
DEBTOR: It's done. Nice doing business with you.
DPR: Likewise.
As far as I'm aware, no actual murder victim has ever turned up, and none of the parties except Ross have been arrested. The exchange sounds much more like a negotiation tactic than an actual contract killing, and is much more reasonable if you read it as such.
But of course this is irrelevant to people who want to use it to horns-effect anything within an arms reach of the greatest project in harm reduction the world has ever seen. To put it another way, people died this last year, this summer, this week probably, from bad drugs. There is no reason why the modern world cannot supply these drugs safely, and darknet markets seem to do a better job than anything else.
But go ahead and parrot the DEA line. Just remember that those who aren't on the right side of history are inevitably on the wrong side of it.
The following information is for educational purposes only, I have no affiliation with the Silk Road 2.0, nor have I ever purchased anything off the site. As far as I know, visiting the site and writing about it with no intention to buy (commit a crime) is perfectly legal.
Any lawyers could confirm the last part of the disclaimer?
Seems certainly enough for an unfightable civil forfeiture case.
It doesn't really matter if you're committing a crime. The police will trash your life anyway if you look at them funny. If you're a black man they'll shoot you in the back while you're on the ground. There's nothing stopping them.
Actually quite possible: the Dutch seller SuperTrips sold into the millions range, so half a million for the top seller is possible.
> I’m not entirely sure what the rules are regarding who can give feedback, but there seem to be people buying huge quantites if a user must buy a product to be able to review it. I have never purchased anything from the site, and I wasn’t presented with any choices to review an item.
You can only review a listing if you have ordered it & paid for it (SR2 no longer does escrow); but you are also allowed to review a listing before your order arrives, which means scraping feedback can be very biased given that most users who are scammed will never go back to update their feedback. (That is, suppose a well-regarded seller has decided to quit selling; they put up a bunch of listings, accept orders & payment, withdraw all the money since there is no longer escrow on SR2, and continue until they're banned. The buyer will leave item feedback like '5 stars: Trusted vendor, waiting eagerly for package' and when it dawns on them that they've been scammed, never switch it to '1 stars: got scammed'. So anyone who scrapes the feedback of this seller will see a sterling 5-star-average profile.)
When weed is fully legalized guess we will see it as a traded commodity on the NYSE. Invest in a dope portfolio, freedom 35 retirement plan
I only wish you had performed it on one of the more popular darknetmarkets as Silkroad 2.0 has been publicly labeled a scam (they managed to lose everybody's funds and have paid ~80% of the smallest losers back so far [0]) and is thus nowhere near as popular as places like Evolution according to the good people on /r/DarkNetMarkets
[0] http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/02/13/silk-road-2-hacked-bitc...
I talked to many people who are affected by the topic: teachers, psychologists, doctors, concerned relatives. I keep telling them: Even in this rich city Vienna, drugs aren't something that pops up in dark alleys behind trainstations, drugs are everywhere and used by functioning people you had no idea about. And they use massive amounts.
There are doctors who say that they tell their clients, that it's ok to smoke one or two cannabis-joints a week. What they don't realize is that a regular smoker (which might be a 13-year-old) doesn't smoke one per week, but more like 5 joints a day. This is a point which get's more important now that states around the world are legalizing cannabis. It really isn't very hazarous, in the sense that it kills you or makes you unable to function, so people can get used to smoking excessive amounts. But: every psychoactive substance you take constantly will, by definition, change you. When usage-patterns get to the "all the time"-category most points doctors and legalization advocates make become invalid, because now it's not about side-effects of a drug you take now and then, but about the effects of a permanently altered state-of-mind you "cultivate".
I regulary ask sellers at highway petrol stations which cigarettes and smoking-utilities they sell the most. There was not only one time where their answer was: long rolling-papers and the lightest tobacco = ingredients for a joint.
LSD isn't just something out of a Beatles song, some people told be they had tried it with 15, because they could get it at their (noble high-society)-school. There were hooligans at a big local football/"soccer"-stadion charged with possession of it.
The issue/problem of cocaine is interesting, because (like cannabis) it is one of the few drugs that permeates all of society from blue-collar-workers to high-society. I once helped a completely confused guy in a smoking to get a taxi home, who stuttered that he lost his purse while getting high on cocaine on some actor's party. He is a painter and a director at one of the famous theatres here, and gifted me a painting he had with him for the taxi-fare I paid.
I once saw two truck-drivers delivering goods to the local supermarket around the corner, snorting something of a magazine at 6.30 a.m.
It's a bit hard to get data about mass of cocaine consumption in the US, but estimations are about 200 tons (400k pounds, please adopt the metric system!) per year. They regularly find unmanned submarines who can transport tons of cocaine. Some of them are sophisticated enough that they might be able to cross the atlantic. Think of the R&D involved there, that cartels have the money to buy.
One of the problems in the vietnam-war was that Vietnam was and is a big platform in international drug-trafficking and many US-soldiers got addicted to heroin while trying to "get away" from the war. Estimations are that more than 40.000 soldiers were addicted. Many of them probably still are, no matter what some people say, it's close to impossible to get away from heroin/opiates. The only easy way to deal with the poor addicts is provide them with their stuff until the end of their lives.
Afghanistan was (still is?) the largest Opium and Cannabis-exporter in the world. Since they don't have many other goods than that, in the 90ies the US more or less allowed or tolerated the drug-business there, so the warlords ("afghan resistance") could buy weapons to hold back Soviet Russia. So, in the war since 2001 US-money flows to both sides of the conflict. US-soldiers are paid to fight against warlords who get their money from selling their heroin in the US (and in the rest of the world). Isn't that ridiculous?
[..insert many more anecdotes and hair-raising numbers..]
To sum it up:
* Drug use is way more excessive than society is comfortable with.
* Drugs aren't mostly used while sitting on the sofa, they are used while working, while riding vehicles, while doing anything really.
* Almost everything people know about drugs (from names to numbers) is incorrect (if they know anything at all).
Disclaimer:
* Numbers above might be inaccurate, because I don't have time for proper references, but the magnitudes should be correct.
* This is not an opinion about how to work with the situation (i wouldn't call it problem, since drug-use has been always there, it's a property/corner-stone of human existence), I have opinions about that, but it's a very complicated matter. There's also a difference in advising addicted individuals and their relatives, which is (depending on the drug) relatively easy, and finding rules/laws for society at large.
Oddly though, I disagree with the summary points, although they're almost impossible to prove.
For example, I think the large majority of Americans can tell you a decent amount about marijuana. Maybe not purchasing info, but general effects, and good guesses on how much folks smoke. I would also guess that if its being legalized in places, than it can't be much more excessive than they're comfortable with. I do agree that they probably can't tell you much more. LSD, Ecstasy, Heroin, Cocaine - they're probably all mysteries to the vast majority of folks.
I would also guess that the vast majority of drug use still happens on a sofa. Obviously, there are people like you say, who use drugs while they're driving or out on the job. Heck, I'm sure a lot of the fast food industry is constantly out of it (see American Beauty). But drugs are still a disorienting state change for many folks, which means a lot of them want to be in a comfortable, safe place when they use them - namely at home on a sofa.
@Knowledge: What fascinated me is that regular users I asked (at a drug-checking-station at clubs for example) also didn't know much more than the name of the stuff they're putting in their body. On the other hand most drinkers also don't know the biochemical/medical stuff, just how to handle the situation (more or less).
I would also have liked to see some indication of how the data was cleaned or some quality control measures, but understand that this was a quick experiment. More interesting data should surely follow in the second post that analyzes changes over time.
1) Try to pick more different colors. Choosing two different shades of pink, of grey and of cyan to represent unrelated things makes zero sense.
2) The sellers-by-country map is completely unreadable, it's just very slight variations of the shades of pink. Italy looks almost as pink as Canada, but it's 16 times less active.
Why is that necessary, though? If Silk Road has any checks in place that protects against scraping, why are those in place?
Even if this wasn't, did you think that after one change of UA he would be getting more 'uniquely identifiable' with each new request sent?
this would be pretty awesome.
I'm also really surprised about the numbers of german sellers in Europe.
For the most part, yes. You can find directories on Tor (but you have to find the onion for the listings, too). You can get started by searching the clearweb.
Suuuuure ;)
