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0 pointsachompas11y ago0 comments

"Systemic" here is defined as "integrated deeply into a system." In this case, "systemic racism/sexism" refers to "the deep integration of racism/sexism in a particular institution or industry."

Also, I would amend #2 to say: "victims of systemic racism/sexism may be able to overcome those via targeted outreach."

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yummyfajitas11y ago· 2 in thread

Can you give me a concrete test I can use to determine whether something is systemic or not? And will any old system do?

Your amended (2) is a positive claim. It tells us "if X happens then Y will happen". You cannot draw a normative conclusion from a sequence of positive claims. You need a "should" or "aught" or "morally good" or "ethical" in there somewhere.

Discussions like this online are pushing me in the direction of favoring mandatory philosophical education.

achompasOP11y ago

Listen, it's not my responsibility to educate you on these issues. They've been covered extensively by sociological experts. Before participating in these discussions, I suggest you look around for some of the resources that cover these topics.

yummyfajitas11y ago

The uncited experts who's authority I'm fallaciously appealing to say your experts are wrong and a bunch of jerks. It's also a bit silly to participate in a discussion and suddenly declare that it's not your responsibility to participate after logic fails you.

One conclusion I have drawn from this - none of the pro-racist decisions people have a clue what the moral underpinnings of their views are beyond "liberal authorities tell me to believe this, so I do".

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