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0 pointsenraged_camel11y ago0 comments

>>She says people who commit suicide are losers can't apologize properly and work hard to make up for their mistake, or people who don't have the guts to weather through the hard times.

My understanding is that at least some of the people who commit suicide have done things beyond apology.

I mean, let's say a bridge collapses and kills tens of people, and it turns out this was due to the architect's gross negligence and/or incompetence. Are you saying he can simply apologize and work hard to make up for his mistake?

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rrradical11y ago· 3 in thread

Wouldn't it be a better use of his life to work to make sure that sort of accident never happens again? Maybe he changes the culture that led to his incompetence. Maybe he tutors young architects and teaches them to learn from his mistake. I think someone that makes such a huge mistake is actually in a very powerful position to salvage something from it.

bentcorner11y ago

You're probably right, but personally if I was in that situation I don't think I'd be able to go through the mental hoops required to forgive myself.

Every morning, I'd wake up and remember what I'd done. The pain would be unimaginable.

marcosdumay11y ago

Anyway, once it's done, anything good you do later is a net positive.

It's not like one can change the past.

tekromancr11y ago

This is how I like to think that people who design software for weapons systems live.

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thisjepisje11y ago· 3 in thread

Are you implying he can make up for his mistake by killing himself?

pessimizer11y ago

No. enraged_camel is clearly asking if sometimes there is no proper apology, and no amount of work that one can do to make up for one's mistake.

tesmar211y ago

It depends on your worldview. As an evangelical Christian, I would say no one can make up for ANY of their sins, small or large. Only God can forgive sins. But thank God He is in the business of graciously doing that.

vacri11y ago

Gross negligence resulting in the deaths of others is usually a crime, punished by incarceration. Yes, those people aren't coming back, but it's not like nothing happens if this sort of thing happens.

rwallace11y ago· 1 in thread

I think it makes more sense to set aside for now the 0.1% of cases that fall into that category, and work on ways to avoid the other 99.9% of suicides that don't.

kiiski11y ago

I don't think all (probably not even most) suicides have anything to do with having made a mistake that needs apologising in the first place.

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