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0 pointsviraptor11y ago0 comments

> you could generally assume someone who was doing so had been thoroughly trained

No amount of training can prevent something like this. It's like today's browsers where the tab can be closed with ctrl+w and the whole window with ctrl+q. It doesn't matter how many times you've done it and how used are you to the position of the 'w'. One day you will close the whole window by accident.

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jessaustin11y ago· 9 in thread

...the whole window with ctrl+q.

OMG I've never done that but now that I know about it I'm very afraid. If I do it tomorrow I'm blaming you.

sushid11y ago

Thankfully, Chrome has a built-in feature to prevent this from happening (on OSX at least). Just go to Chrome > Warn before Quitting and make sure there's a checkmark next to the option.

Now, if you accidentally press Cmd + Q, it should prompt a "Hold Cmd + Q to Quit" instead of actually quitting.

tremendo11y ago

Or, Settings > On Startup... "Continue where you left off". This will restore your tabs after launching Chrome.

Houshalter11y ago

I disabled that warning because it's annoying every time I want to close the browser, even without the dangerous keyboard shortcut. If it happens, you can go to the menu and find "recent tabs" or just ctrl+shift+t.

sp33211y ago

If you do this in Firefox, you can go to History -> Restore previous session. This will bring up all the tabs you had open last time it quit.

viraptorOP11y ago

This helps: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/customizable-...

Also, I made a mistake, it doesn't close the window. It closes all windows at once. Be afraid!

pooper11y ago

ctrl + q very appropriately quits the application. If this came as a ticket to me, I'd close it as working as expected.

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nitrogen11y ago

Ctrl-Q typically preserves the session though, so all non-ajax sites will come back as they are, including partially filled forms.

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LukeShu11y ago

I've done it enough times that I was finally motivated to figure out to set browser.showQuitWarning=true in about:config.

oakwhiz11y ago

The other reason I enable browser.showQuitWarning in Firefox is because you can Save and Quit instead of just quitting.

thefreeman11y ago· 3 in thread

Personally I agree. Mistakes happen, everyone has accidentally hit the wrong key at one point or another in their life. I was pretty surprised how seemingly fine he was with being fired. At the same time, I guess the net result of the mistake was big enough that it did kind of require a response, and it has been about 30 years since it happened.

GoodIntentions11y ago

IMHO, firing someone who owns up to a keystroke mistake like that is wrong. Good managers fix the problem, weak managers fix blame.

Root cause analysis + countermeasure might have boiled down to "operator error due to shitty interface" + "we will tape a guard over F7 key, since it will never ever get fixed in software"

viraptorOP11y ago

> the net result of the mistake was big enough that it did kind of require a response

That's a dangerous way of thinking. 9/11 was big enough that it required a response. Not sure if we'll ever reverse the airport security stupidity that was such a response.

smsm4211y ago

This is a result of a way of thinking called "Politician Fallacy": "We need to do something. This is something. Therefore, we need to do this". Of course, 9/11 required a response - however it didn't require just any response, it required appropriate response. TSA is not one, and it starts to be more and more clear to more and more people. OTOH, firing somebody who caused the network to go down at the critical moment may be entirely appropriate - one of your responsibilities is not to make such mistakes, you failed at it, you're fired.

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sliverstorm11y ago· 1 in thread

IMO the fact that we have multiple examples of these kinds of accident-prone key pairs does partially exonerate whoever did this particular F6/F7 bit.

dceddia11y ago

I can't count how many times I accidentally hit the Save Game button instead of the Load Game button in Half-Life. The keys were literally, like, right next to each other.

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16 comments · 3 top-level

jessaustin11y ago· 9 in thread

...the whole window with ctrl+q.

OMG I've never done that but now that I know about it I'm very afraid. If I do it tomorrow I'm blaming you.

sushid11y ago

Thankfully, Chrome has a built-in feature to prevent this from happening (on OSX at least). Just go to Chrome > Warn before Quitting and make sure there's a checkmark next to the option.

Now, if you accidentally press Cmd + Q, it should prompt a "Hold Cmd + Q to Quit" instead of actually quitting.

tremendo11y ago

Or, Settings > On Startup... "Continue where you left off". This will restore your tabs after launching Chrome.

Houshalter11y ago

sp33211y ago

If you do this in Firefox, you can go to History -> Restore previous session. This will bring up all the tabs you had open last time it quit.

viraptorOP11y ago

This helps: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/customizable-...

Also, I made a mistake, it doesn't close the window. It closes all windows at once. Be afraid!

pooper11y ago

ctrl + q very appropriately quits the application. If this came as a ticket to me, I'd close it as working as expected.

2 more replies

nitrogen11y ago

Ctrl-Q typically preserves the session though, so all non-ajax sites will come back as they are, including partially filled forms.

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LukeShu11y ago

I've done it enough times that I was finally motivated to figure out to set browser.showQuitWarning=true in about:config.

oakwhiz11y ago

The other reason I enable browser.showQuitWarning in Firefox is because you can Save and Quit instead of just quitting.

thefreeman11y ago· 3 in thread

GoodIntentions11y ago

IMHO, firing someone who owns up to a keystroke mistake like that is wrong. Good managers fix the problem, weak managers fix blame.

Root cause analysis + countermeasure might have boiled down to "operator error due to shitty interface" + "we will tape a guard over F7 key, since it will never ever get fixed in software"

viraptorOP11y ago

> the net result of the mistake was big enough that it did kind of require a response

That's a dangerous way of thinking. 9/11 was big enough that it required a response. Not sure if we'll ever reverse the airport security stupidity that was such a response.

smsm4211y ago

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sliverstorm11y ago· 1 in thread

IMO the fact that we have multiple examples of these kinds of accident-prone key pairs does partially exonerate whoever did this particular F6/F7 bit.

dceddia11y ago

I can't count how many times I accidentally hit the Save Game button instead of the Load Game button in Half-Life. The keys were literally, like, right next to each other.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse