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0 pointscamus212y ago0 comments

A majority of PHP users are not devs and just know enough to upload files on a server or tweak Wordpress.There is not that much serious PHP "engineers".

Anyway,it's great Scala choosed the JVM because it can be part of the stack of any business that already relies on it.That's what matters IHMO.If it is not fit,one can still switch back to java and still use the jar developped in scala or exploit java libs.

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ryanobjc12y ago· 2 in thread

That's just a load of CS elite nonsense.

Mass market programming languages are built on the back of "non serious engineers" as you call it. PHP is big because it is legible and works for literally 10 million "not serious PHP engineers".

Ridiculing the funnel of people into engineering is insane. This comment alone is the reason why 50 women didn't go into CS this week.

steffan12y ago

Hyperbole much? If a man or woman is that put off by this sort of comment, they're probably more suited for another field of endeavor.

ryanobjc12y ago

I prefer the term rhetoric.

It has been proven that anxiety about not "knowing enough" or being "good enough" at programming is keeping women out of CS. By segregating students into ability levels, one college was able to get enrollment up to 42% in CS:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/76028566-harvey-mudd-presiden...

Considering how important programming is becoming, how many aspects of our lives are ALREADY controlled by code, your "suited for another field of endeavor" comment just makes no sense.

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