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0 pointsklenwell12y ago0 comments

What leads me to believe we'll do better with new regulations? The belief, as chimeracoder suggests, that regulation can done right.

One point that caught my attention in an NPR report[1] on this dispute last week:

IHS's Broughton says there was a similar dispute in South Korea a few years ago, and it was ultimately arbitrated by the government.

I don't know the details of the South Korean dispute but I understand South Korea has pretty fast internet speeds.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/02/20/280255...

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alexeisadeski312y ago

South Korea also has highly invasive internet censorship.

Would you like that as well?

Oh of course not. We want the great parts but to leave the bad parts. Sometimes it's a package deal. I'll take what we've got, thank you very much.

brenschluss12y ago

South Korea's internet censorship has very little to do with their internet speeds. Saying "Well, if you want fast internet, it'll have to be censored" (as if our internet isn't fully monitored) is a false equivalence of the highest order.

alexeisadeski312y ago

Monitoring =/ censorship

If the gov't views the internet as it's possession, then it can make sense for it to be both fast and censored.

brenschluss12y ago

Well perhaps this may be the case in some scenarios, but that doesn't mean that the internet can't be censored when internet infrastructure is private, either. p = internet is public infrastructure q = censorship for some (but not all) p -> q for some (but not all) ¬p -> q q -> irrelevant

It's irrelevant to the question of fast internet.

To reiterate, you're saying that censorship and fast internet are a package deal, and if we want fast internet, we have to deal with censorship, amirite?

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reversi_online12y ago

Some things never change. I remember a article on South Korean broadband in Businessweek 15 years ago that ranted on about Seoul's paucity of elevators.

I'm guessing that package deal means we'll also be having to eat pickled cabbage and end our sentences with verbs if we want decent Internet speeds? I just hope we won't have to drink bubble tea, that stuff is gross.

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alexeisadeski312y ago

South Korea also has highly invasive internet censorship.

Would you like that as well?

Oh of course not. We want the great parts but to leave the bad parts. Sometimes it's a package deal. I'll take what we've got, thank you very much.

brenschluss12y ago

alexeisadeski312y ago

Monitoring =/ censorship

If the gov't views the internet as it's possession, then it can make sense for it to be both fast and censored.

brenschluss12y ago

It's irrelevant to the question of fast internet.

To reiterate, you're saying that censorship and fast internet are a package deal, and if we want fast internet, we have to deal with censorship, amirite?

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reversi_online12y ago

Some things never change. I remember a article on South Korean broadband in Businessweek 15 years ago that ranted on about Seoul's paucity of elevators.

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