Nagios-plugins web site taken over by Nagios (opens in new tab)

(bugzilla.redhat.com)

66 pointsjuice1312y ago25 comments

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helfire12y ago· 14 in thread

What alternatives to Nagios are out there? I've seen Icinga mentioned today, what else are people using?

Centreon have their own fork of Nagios (Centreon Engine) [1] and a pretty nice UI (Centreon) that beats the pants off of the crusty old Nagios CGI interface [2]. We've used the Centreon front end (but keeping Nagios as the underlying monitoring engine) for about three years now and have been very happy with it.

[1]: http://www.centreon.com/Content-Download/download-centreon-e...

[2]: http://www.centreon.com/Content-Download/donwload-centreon

bashtoni12y ago

Very happy Sensu user for over a year now.

You can use nagios check plugins, but it's a completely new, and IMO much better designed code base.

http://sensuapp.com/

bruce_one12y ago

I believe it's http://sensuapp.org/

Getting a "Heroku | No such app" on the .com version...

Just in case anyone's confused (I was :-p )

mzr12y ago

Observium is good for network monitoring: http://www.observium.org

jlgaddis12y ago

It's license sucks, though.

teh_klev12y ago

Licensed under a slightly modified "Q Public License":

http://www.observium.org/wiki/Developing_for_Observium#Licen...

http://opensource.org/licenses/QPL-1.0

So not totally sucky, it's still open source and free beer.

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smnv12y ago

What about http://cacti.net/ ? With Weathermap plugin it is quite good thing for performance monitoring. THold and Monitor plugins are for availability monitoring and alerting. It scales very good with Boost plugin, I had 3000+ hosts, 60000+ datasources with total poll time within one minute.

Many prefer Cacti to Zabbix because the latter is clunky and confusing compared to Cacti's simple straightforward approach with plugins.

But I am actually wondering, how alive is Cacti now, because its releases are constantly postponed, and forum is not as alive as it used to be.

teh_klev12y ago

Cacti is just a graphing tool that sits on top of RRDTool . It doesn't provide up/down monitoring and host/service check scheduling, it doesn't provide features such as alert escalation logic, and a whole bunch of other fairly important things that a monitoring engine such as Nagios does.

jlgaddis12y ago

Cacti serves a very different purpose, IMO. Up/down monitoring is not a core feature and, honestly, it's not that good at it.

k3oni12y ago

Take a look at Zabbix, lots of features from the base package, no plug-ins needed, free: http://www.zabbix.com/

CrLf12y ago

Zabbix is very good, at least since version 2.0.x which is the one I've used. Once you understand how it works, it's very easy to write agent scripts (plugins) and build templates for it.

It took about 3 months for me to build a monitoring solution from scratch with Zabbix for a little over 100 devices, with just a single vCPU VMware VM for both Zabbix and its MySQL database. Monitored devices included Windows, Linux and AIX machines, but also a couple of large UPSes and a few server rack PDUs.

This was my first contact with Zabbix and during this time I wrote dozens of agent scripts to monitor stuff ranging from DB2 and Microsoft Exchange clusters to physical disks and SAN LUNs.

It's one of a select few software packages that I can say that I really like. It works as expected and it's pretty extensible.

k3oni12y ago

Yep, we moved form Nagios to Zabbix once we crossed the ~300 devices as that is one of the main advantages for Zabbix: it scales pretty nice. Takes a bit to get to know how everything works and set it up correctly but it's a pretty good piece of monitoring software.

langseth12y ago

naemon is a fork of nagios 4.0 done by the developer that commited 95% of the Nagios codebase: http://naemon.github.io/

His "release" from being a core nagios developer is another interesting story, he talks about it some here (some nsfw language: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgbbyyNIiHc

belluchan12y ago

Datadog, leftronic or Rackspace monitoring for hosted solutions.

ape412y ago· 2 in thread

What about Nagios itself? Maybe it needs a fork.

jcater12y ago

Been done.

https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/

BCM4312y ago

There is, and it's way better. https://www.icinga.org/

chris_wot12y ago

This is pretty serious! It appears that Nagios did some very underhanded things to gain control of that project.

The bigger concern is that the new maintainers have no reputation and no proven track recording quality, commitment, skills or experience on this project. I would not be happy accepting updates from them.

bashtoni12y ago

Blog post from Sam Kottler, the maintainer of nagios plugins in fedora/epel on the matter:

http://words.shk.io/on-the-nagios-plugins-drama

ghshephard12y ago

monitoring-plugins is a good name. Not branded to any one company, and is a better destination for open-source development of monitoring plugins.

Anybody who really thought about it for a bit, must have known that Nagios LLC would eventually seize control of anything Nagios trademark related.

VLM12y ago

At least the community had the good sense to distribute under the GPL. Its harder to dump a community with that license, so they at least have a chance.

gnoway12y ago

Reading through the mailing list thread announcing this, it's clear that Nagios was never really an open project to begin with. As far as the plugins site goes - they transferred domain ownership a couple of years ago. The plugins hosted on the site are compatible with Nagios and all it's forks.

This outcome and the way it happened should surprise no one.

sokoloff12y ago

I can't read that exchange trail in the issue tracker without hearing this Life of Brian sketch in my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE (some NSFW language)

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helfire12y ago· 14 in thread

What alternatives to Nagios are out there? I've seen Icinga mentioned today, what else are people using?

teh_klev12y ago

[1]: http://www.centreon.com/Content-Download/download-centreon-e...

[2]: http://www.centreon.com/Content-Download/donwload-centreon

bashtoni12y ago

Very happy Sensu user for over a year now.

You can use nagios check plugins, but it's a completely new, and IMO much better designed code base.

http://sensuapp.com/

bruce_one12y ago

I believe it's http://sensuapp.org/

Getting a "Heroku | No such app" on the .com version...

Just in case anyone's confused (I was :-p )

mzr12y ago

Observium is good for network monitoring: http://www.observium.org

jlgaddis12y ago

It's license sucks, though.

teh_klev12y ago

Licensed under a slightly modified "Q Public License":

http://www.observium.org/wiki/Developing_for_Observium#Licen...

http://opensource.org/licenses/QPL-1.0

So not totally sucky, it's still open source and free beer.

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smnv12y ago

Many prefer Cacti to Zabbix because the latter is clunky and confusing compared to Cacti's simple straightforward approach with plugins.

But I am actually wondering, how alive is Cacti now, because its releases are constantly postponed, and forum is not as alive as it used to be.

teh_klev12y ago

jlgaddis12y ago

Cacti serves a very different purpose, IMO. Up/down monitoring is not a core feature and, honestly, it's not that good at it.

k3oni12y ago

Take a look at Zabbix, lots of features from the base package, no plug-ins needed, free: http://www.zabbix.com/

CrLf12y ago

Zabbix is very good, at least since version 2.0.x which is the one I've used. Once you understand how it works, it's very easy to write agent scripts (plugins) and build templates for it.

This was my first contact with Zabbix and during this time I wrote dozens of agent scripts to monitor stuff ranging from DB2 and Microsoft Exchange clusters to physical disks and SAN LUNs.

It's one of a select few software packages that I can say that I really like. It works as expected and it's pretty extensible.

k3oni12y ago

langseth12y ago

naemon is a fork of nagios 4.0 done by the developer that commited 95% of the Nagios codebase: http://naemon.github.io/

His "release" from being a core nagios developer is another interesting story, he talks about it some here (some nsfw language: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgbbyyNIiHc

belluchan12y ago

Datadog, leftronic or Rackspace monitoring for hosted solutions.

ape412y ago· 2 in thread

What about Nagios itself? Maybe it needs a fork.

jcater12y ago

Been done.

https://www.icinga.org/faq/why-a-fork/

BCM4312y ago

There is, and it's way better. https://www.icinga.org/

chris_wot12y ago

This is pretty serious! It appears that Nagios did some very underhanded things to gain control of that project.

bashtoni12y ago

Blog post from Sam Kottler, the maintainer of nagios plugins in fedora/epel on the matter:

http://words.shk.io/on-the-nagios-plugins-drama

ghshephard12y ago

monitoring-plugins is a good name. Not branded to any one company, and is a better destination for open-source development of monitoring plugins.

Anybody who really thought about it for a bit, must have known that Nagios LLC would eventually seize control of anything Nagios trademark related.

VLM12y ago

At least the community had the good sense to distribute under the GPL. Its harder to dump a community with that license, so they at least have a chance.

gnoway12y ago

This outcome and the way it happened should surprise no one.

sokoloff12y ago

I can't read that exchange trail in the issue tracker without hearing this Life of Brian sketch in my head:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE (some NSFW language)

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