Complexity of FreeBSD VFS using ZFS as an example (opens in new tab)

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lewq12y ago· 8 in thread

Happy to take any questions :-)

jeffreyparker12y ago

As a very happy ZFS on FreeBSD user, thank you for all of your work!

lewq12y ago

On behalf of Andriy and the rest of the FreeBSD/ZFS community, you're welcome! :)

olavgg12y ago

I'm also a very happy ZFS user on FreeBSD. I've tried to use it in a lot of crazy ways. At the moment I'm researching if ZFS and a virtual machine running Microsoft SQL Server can improve query performance(with LZ4/GZIP compression) and improve the backup speed.

Though I'm wondering about if there are any plans to add XZ compression? Or faster hashing with Siphash24 for data checksums?

Scaevolus12y ago

LZMA compression (used in the xz format) is much slower than the disk interface and uses a lot of memory, so it would reduce performance.

patrickg_zill12y ago

Improving the backup speed should be as easy as quiescing the database, taking a ZFS snapshot after you are sure everything is written to disk, then backing up that snapshot.

andyjpb12y ago

Have you read the VFS Chapter in Beautiful Code?

agapon12y ago

Thank you for pointing out that book!

It looks like it has a very good description of how C and generated code are used for object-oriented implemetation of VFS. Plain C is not immediately useful for object-oriented programming.

The goal of my blog post series is to describe how VFS works on a higher level.

lewq12y ago

Not yet! :)

kieransimkin12y ago· 1 in thread

Interesting to see some technical details of FreeBSD's VFS layer, I've never delved too deeply into it myself but I have looked at Linux's so it's not completely unfamiliar to me.

agapon12y ago

I haven't had a chance yet to examine Linux VFS in details, so at the moment I can only talk about Solaris and FreeBSD ones.

jfb12y ago· 1 in thread

This was very interesting, thanks. Sorta-OT, I wonder if there's a modern equivalent of Vahalia's Unix Internals: The New Frontiers [1]?

[1] http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/337378.UNIX_Internals

agapon12y ago

Not exactly the same thing but I found the following books quite useful for understanding how a lot of kernle code works: - The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System - Solaris Internals: Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris Kernel Architecture

Still, nothing beats reading the source code :-)

angersock12y ago· 1 in thread

The article mentions illumos--has anybody got any experiences to share with using that instead of BSD or nix?

doughj312y ago

Illumos is nix. Per wikipedia, "Illumos is a free and open-source Unix operating system. It derives from OpenSolaris, which in turn derives from UNIX System V R4 and Berkeley Software Distribution. "

When Oracle killed off OpenSolaris, Illumos came about.

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15 comments · 4 top-level

lewq12y ago· 8 in thread

Happy to take any questions :-)

jeffreyparker12y ago

As a very happy ZFS on FreeBSD user, thank you for all of your work!

lewq12y ago

On behalf of Andriy and the rest of the FreeBSD/ZFS community, you're welcome! :)

olavgg12y ago

Though I'm wondering about if there are any plans to add XZ compression? Or faster hashing with Siphash24 for data checksums?

Scaevolus12y ago

LZMA compression (used in the xz format) is much slower than the disk interface and uses a lot of memory, so it would reduce performance.

patrickg_zill12y ago

Improving the backup speed should be as easy as quiescing the database, taking a ZFS snapshot after you are sure everything is written to disk, then backing up that snapshot.

andyjpb12y ago

Have you read the VFS Chapter in Beautiful Code?

agapon12y ago

Thank you for pointing out that book!

It looks like it has a very good description of how C and generated code are used for object-oriented implemetation of VFS. Plain C is not immediately useful for object-oriented programming.

The goal of my blog post series is to describe how VFS works on a higher level.

lewq12y ago

Not yet! :)

kieransimkin12y ago· 1 in thread

Interesting to see some technical details of FreeBSD's VFS layer, I've never delved too deeply into it myself but I have looked at Linux's so it's not completely unfamiliar to me.

agapon12y ago

I haven't had a chance yet to examine Linux VFS in details, so at the moment I can only talk about Solaris and FreeBSD ones.

jfb12y ago· 1 in thread

This was very interesting, thanks. Sorta-OT, I wonder if there's a modern equivalent of Vahalia's Unix Internals: The New Frontiers [1]?

[1] http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/337378.UNIX_Internals

agapon12y ago

Still, nothing beats reading the source code :-)

angersock12y ago· 1 in thread

The article mentions illumos--has anybody got any experiences to share with using that instead of BSD or nix?

doughj312y ago

Illumos is nix. Per wikipedia, "Illumos is a free and open-source Unix operating system. It derives from OpenSolaris, which in turn derives from UNIX System V R4 and Berkeley Software Distribution. "

When Oracle killed off OpenSolaris, Illumos came about.

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