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0 pointsdingaling12y ago0 comments

> register with IANA to get an ipv4 and ipv6 block

Actually one has to register as a Local Internet Registry with the local monopoly RIR, such as ARIN or RIPE. Only they can request blocks from IANA, which they then allocate to LIRs in exchange for non-trivial membership fees.

Fees in the order of 3,000EUR to join and not much less on a recurring annual basis:

http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/become-a-mem...

Unfortunately since the ITU proposal for a non-geographic RIR faded some years ago there is no competition in this space, as the existing RIRs refuse to service cross-geography requests.

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xhrpost12y ago· 2 in thread

On top of it, the last I read, getting IP blocks from a RIR (even a decently supplied one like ARIN) is rather difficult as the IPv4 space continually dwindles. Also read that ARIN won't give you IPv6 space unless you first have assigned v4 space. Not sure if that's still true. I only read and research this stuff, haven't actually dealt with these entities myself. For a just starting out ISP, I think you'd be forced to lease IP's from your transit provider.

nknighthb12y ago

> Also read that ARIN won't give you IPv6 space unless you first have assigned v4 space.

You misread an "or" as an "and".

For end-users: https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv6_initial_assign.h...

"Meet one of the following requirements"

one of, not all of.

For ISPs/LIRs: https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv6_initial_alloc.ht...

Each criteria is followed by "or"

xhrpost12y ago

OK, I was referencing some older info: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/2339/arin-stupid-policies

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mgbmtl12y ago· 2 in thread

Wow, that's crazy.. Afaik, last time I checked, it's cheaper when dealing with ARIN? i.e. for small orgs, 500$/year + fee per block?

(but indeed, I should have written "register with an RIR, such as ARIN/RIPE", instead of IANA.)

_delirium12y ago

Yeah, ARIN is $500/yr for ISPs using a /22 or smaller of IPv4 space (i.e. 1022 addresses), $1000 for up to a /20 (4094 addresses): https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html

RIPE is a lot pricier for small members because it isn't tiered. Everyone pays €3800 the first year and then €1800/year thereafter: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/become-a-mem...

taziden12y ago

These prices are for becoming a Local Internet Registry (LIR). You don't need this to provide access with your own adress blocks, AS and stuff.

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