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0 pointscsmuk12y ago0 comments

They're incredibly easy to build. I notice you use puppet. That's enough tooling to push configuration out and restart services for nginx or apache+mod_proxy. You can break configuration out into separate files per agency if you need to.

Varnish is different as that requires restarting.

We do the same with commercial kit (Riverbed) with over 140 HTTP application endpoints and that is higher friction than the equivalent setup yet we manage it with a mere 1 person...

Deployment is a solved problem. No offense but you're not Google!

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matthewcford12y ago

There is a need for dynamic routing, which you're overlooking. So updating configuration files and restarting services would not work.

orf12y ago

and you are not a government agency delivering digital services to 60+ million people

mseebach12y ago

"OMG we're the government and everything we do is huge and unprecedented so it is impossible for us to use off-the-shelf anything and we can learn nothing from best practises" is step 0 of every failed big government project.

There's significant thawing of that attitude (and gov.uk, for their imperfections, is definitely a very positive part of the trend) but the idea is alive and well.

walshemj12y ago

Yes because a real world organization with IT systems going back 50+ years is exactly like some me to macbook and MBA start up with two men and a pantomime horse in old street.

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csmukOP12y ago

No we're just handling that 60 million people's mortgages, insurance, financial status, financial history, legal and personal data instead...

mattmanser12y ago

Are you a price comparison site? Or Experian or Equifax perhaps?

Unless you clearly say you're not just some enterprise business that aren't exactly known for their technical competence this comment is totally ambiguous.

Do you just think you know what you're talking about, or do you actually?

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orf12y ago

So you are handling a small set of related services to a large number of people. That's hardly comparable to the task of migrating 300+ (distinct) government agencies/services to the new system, along with whatever old systems they currently use.

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0 pointscsmuk12y ago0 comments

Varnish is different as that requires restarting.

We do the same with commercial kit (Riverbed) with over 140 HTTP application endpoints and that is higher friction than the equivalent setup yet we manage it with a mere 1 person...

Deployment is a solved problem. No offense but you're not Google!

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matthewcford12y ago

There is a need for dynamic routing, which you're overlooking. So updating configuration files and restarting services would not work.

orf12y ago

and you are not a government agency delivering digital services to 60+ million people

mseebach12y ago

There's significant thawing of that attitude (and gov.uk, for their imperfections, is definitely a very positive part of the trend) but the idea is alive and well.

walshemj12y ago

Yes because a real world organization with IT systems going back 50+ years is exactly like some me to macbook and MBA start up with two men and a pantomime horse in old street.

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csmukOP12y ago

No we're just handling that 60 million people's mortgages, insurance, financial status, financial history, legal and personal data instead...

mattmanser12y ago

Are you a price comparison site? Or Experian or Equifax perhaps?

Unless you clearly say you're not just some enterprise business that aren't exactly known for their technical competence this comment is totally ambiguous.

Do you just think you know what you're talking about, or do you actually?

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orf12y ago

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