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0 pointsSilasX12y ago0 comments

>The same ACLU is a strong Second Amendment supporter.

Could you tell me specifically what definition of "strong supporter" you're using here? I can't think of any reasonable one that would make your claim true. Supporter, maybe.

But a "strong supporter" is not someone who endorses a watered down version of the Second Amendment, and then spends zero effort defending infringements of that.

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eropple12y ago

Disagreeing with your interpretation of the Second Amendment does not mean they do not support civil rights. Nor does spending their money and time defending civil rights that don't have massive organizations devoted to defending them.

SilasXOP12y ago

Yeah, I get that the ACLU's actions regarding the 2nd Amendment are defensible.

That wasn't the topic.

The topic was the claim that the ACLU is a "strong supporter" of the second amendment. Do you know a definition of "strong supporter" that is appropriate for the ACLU's actions regarding the Second Amendment?

No, I don't want to hear about how great the ACLU is.

No, I don't want to hear about the ACLU really does support civil rights.

No, I don't want to hear about how their position on the 2nd amendment is reasonable.

No, I don't want to hear about all the other people who can protect the second amendment.

I want something responsive to my question: in what sense is the ACLU not just a "supporter" but a "strong supporter" of the Second Amendment?

Don't have anything to say about that? Then please stay out of the discussion rather than changing topics and blurring the issues. Thanks.

rjbwork12y ago

>Don't have anything to say about that? Then please stay out of the discussion rather than changing topics and blurring the issues. Thanks.

The topic of this thread is actually that we have a lot of people serving life in prison for non-violent crimes.

Your post is now 8ish levels deep and asking people to prove that the ACLU is a strong supporter of 2nd amendment rights.

This seems like a pretty big topic change and blurring of the issues.

eropple12y ago

I think they're a strong supporter of the Second Amendment as per the way they interpret it; they have filed a number of briefs in support of cases that fit their definition.

Let's stop with the farce: your complaint is that you don't like their interpretation, and so you choose to change the topic and blur the issue on a completely different thread to grind that ax of yours.

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eropple12y ago

SilasXOP12y ago

Yeah, I get that the ACLU's actions regarding the 2nd Amendment are defensible.

That wasn't the topic.

No, I don't want to hear about how great the ACLU is.

No, I don't want to hear about the ACLU really does support civil rights.

No, I don't want to hear about how their position on the 2nd amendment is reasonable.

No, I don't want to hear about all the other people who can protect the second amendment.

I want something responsive to my question: in what sense is the ACLU not just a "supporter" but a "strong supporter" of the Second Amendment?

Don't have anything to say about that? Then please stay out of the discussion rather than changing topics and blurring the issues. Thanks.

rjbwork12y ago

>Don't have anything to say about that? Then please stay out of the discussion rather than changing topics and blurring the issues. Thanks.

The topic of this thread is actually that we have a lot of people serving life in prison for non-violent crimes.

Your post is now 8ish levels deep and asking people to prove that the ACLU is a strong supporter of 2nd amendment rights.

This seems like a pretty big topic change and blurring of the issues.

eropple12y ago

I think they're a strong supporter of the Second Amendment as per the way they interpret it; they have filed a number of briefs in support of cases that fit their definition.

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