Dropshipping can be a great compliment to an existing software business, offering a nice way of increasing customer lifetime value. My wife and I develop & market CattleMax, a web app for cattle ranchers to manage their herds.
A few years ago, we were approached by a manufacturer who asked if we would become a reseller for their animal identification tags. We thought we'd try it out for a few months so we setup a store so our customers could buy from us online. Several years later, business has grown beyond just our software customers and we have launched another dropship store with another manufacturer.
I have a business I'm interested in selling–possibly in a similar manner.
I assume you'll be doing a detailed follow-up post?
http://ecommerce.shopify.com/guides/dropshipping
I'd also recommend DrewSanocki.com for some solid eCommerce / drop shipping material. (Disclose: He's become a friend of mine). He started a drop shipping business in the early 2000s and grew it to mid to high 7 figures before selling. Writes a lot of great stuff about eCommerce in general:
For solid eCommerce, would also recommend Andy Dunn's Medium blog / writings. Great insights into eCommerce that I've really enjoyed recently:
Hope this helps!
Imagine X is the highest value any bidder attaches to ownership of the site. Even if the price drops below X, the bidder has an incentive not to bid (since they can potentially wait and scoop it up at a discount). You're throwing out money.
I wanted to combine getting a good value with the ability to showcase the bid/price - and the process - publicly.
If I did a normal open auction, there is a chance everyone would wait until the last minute to bid. I'm managing bids manually, so it could get hectic. Plus, it wouldn't be as fun to watch for people reading.
Also, if there were NO bids early on it would really hurt the potential sales price with a lack of interest.
A full-on closed auction wouldn't be nearly as exciting for people to watch, and I wanted to generate buzz and interest, plus show the whole process.
With the reverse auction, the bid management is simplified - I only have to manage one winning bidder. It also allows the process to be showed publicly. Finally, it creates a sense of scarcity. If someone really wants it, they'll be more likely to bid early to prevent others from getting it.
So is it perfect? Definitely not! :-) Probably leaving some money on the table but I thought that this was the best structure to maximize value AND interest.
This would maximize intrest, but not maximize value (money).
To give bidders the incentive to bid their true value, you need a Vickrey auction where the winner only has to pay the next highest bid. But, this is suboptimal if there isn't a lot of liquidity. Also, you won't have the credibility to do this if you are auctioning off your own business (you have an incentive to lie about the next highest bid).
Downside of that might be that the reverse auction probably generates more buzz though... here we are, on the front page of HN.
Also, It would be based on the previous 6 months average... Not the current year sales...
Personally, I am way to skeptical of this guy finding a buyer, and than scamming him by buying up inventory through friends and entities he creates, knowing he will get 2.5x+ on each product he buys.
And while, theoretically, it could be possible to create a ton of fake transactions to boost the sale price, it'd sure be a heck of a lot of work for little payoff. You'd need legitimate transactions, otherwise you'd simply be returning the motors and reducing revenue.
I suppose I could start a trolling motor MLM and ruin all my personal relationships to boost my chances at a slightly higher sale price...
4 rounds of PR ("price cut! Is it for you?) and a sale isn't a bad deal at all.
I'm trying to figure out what the incentive would be for anyone to buy this, let alone folks in HN-type circles.
Yes, technically it's an ecommerce business, but with wages and salaries (outside of the general part-time site administrator) being non-existent, I don't see how it can stay afloat. You allocated a portion of the shared infrastructure expenses with the parent company; why is a portion of your salary not also included? Surely work goes into finding and brokering relationships with the motor manufacturers, selecting opportunities, setting the vision, etc.
On paper, even if you allocated 100% of the profits to pay for a person's salary, it can barely sustain a single person. The only realistic outcome is for it to be added into the fold of an existing company that wants to get into the high-end trolling motor space as a break-even business unit. Potentially serving as a loss leader to sell other higher margin items.
This reduces your prospective buyers down to about ten in the entire country.
One thing I love in your data: tracking traffic -> revenue. Cool!
1) The rationale behind the reverse auction isn't 100% profit based. It's the best combination of being able to be transparent (for a good case study) combined with the ability to get a good value.
The reverse auction actually prevents people from waiting until the last minute because it creates scarcity. The moment someone places a bid, the store is off the market. So for people who really are interested, they only get one chance.
2) Small eCommerce business like this usually sell for 2-3x sellers discretionary earnings, which is a term for net income with a usual exclusion for one full-time salary. The fact that a full-time salary isn't included is part of the reason they sell for a smaller multiple.
From the original post:
Currently, my operations manager, Pat, runs the day-to-day operations. He works part time and spends up to two hours per day running the operations of TrollingMotors.net. For more details on exactly what he does, please see the section on Operational Responsibilities.
When calculating seller’s discretionary earnings (i.e., income) for small eCommerce businesses of this size, wages for one person (often the owner) are usually not deducted. Given that Pat and my combined operational workload for the business is less than 15 hours per week, I didn’t include any labor costs per this normal exclusion in calculating seller’s discretionary income.
However, I realize that most people (myself included if I were you!) would want to see the financials including payments to an employee. That’s why I’ve listed below how paying an employee would impact the bottom line. This is the anticipated cash flow assuming someone else was running the day-to-day operations of the business, effectively putting the operational aspects of the business on complete autopilot.
Cost for employee wages is $15,000 / year (assuming $50,000 full-time salary paid at two hours per day), reducing the net income to $50,000 from $65,000.
You mentioned it can barely sustain one person which, if this all they did all day, may be true (depending on where you live). But the operational time involved with running the business is 2 hours per day, which leaves a lot of time to do other things. Most of the existing work has been done (website development, supplier relationships, etc) and the product line doesn't change much so the website doesn't need to be updated frequently.
Two hours a day can seem really low, especially from the perspective of the seller as I obviously have a conflict of interest. That's why I added real data points to the workload required for operations. Over the last year, averages are:
- 3 email tickets per day - 4 phone calls per day - Average call time of 8 minutes)
...plus some work at the beginning of the year to retrofit the website for the 20 to 30 new models that come out.
If you tried to take out a $150,000 full-time salary for someone out of the business, it obviously wouldn't make sense. But for someone who wants to get into eCommerce with a minimal amount of day-to-day work and quickly get a lifestyle business into their life, it's a much better fit.
Hope this helps clear things up, and let me know if I can answer any follow up questions. And glad you liked the traffic -> revenue chart! I think it's much more useful than simply traffic stats alone. :-)
Related to your #1, that makes sense if 100% of your prospective buyers know about the auction the minute it's opened, but in practice, many folks won't find out about the auction until, say, 30 days in, when they could have absolutely been interested in purchasing on day one.
In short, creating scarcity isn't the mechanism for the sale; knowing that it's even for sale is.
RE: #2, understood. I suppose it's just not clear that there _is_ additional administrative work that needs to be performed beyond the operational responsibilities you outlined, and it's not accounted for, where in virtually all other departments, it is.
Btw, in another post you talk about "illcit" questions; I think you mean "elicit," though it'd probably bring up both :)
why not post cash flow as well?
you will also get your ass kicked for posting projected financials without a series 7 & 63
The benefits from advertising are usually used immediately. Buy a super bowl commercial? The benefits are definitely used up within that year, if not that week.
For a business like this, cash flow is essentially what you see on the income statement. No huge account payables (pay bills with a CC) and no non-cash expenses (like depreciation. Again, I'n not depreciating my advertising.)
Also, I do happen to have a Series 7 and 66 - but as I left the financial industry a while ago they aren't current. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's any rule that prohibits me from 1) selling my own business and 2) disclosing the financials without a license. Might be different if I was selling YOUR business for you.
If you have a financial background and/or sources for your points above, I'm very open to being corrected. Just let me know.
The series 7/63 issue only applies if you don't leave the usual "forward looking statements etc" disclosure.
There are a few things I'm not sharing (like the top selling products, for example), but for the most part, I think the advantages from being transparent far outweigh the risks.
That is a fantastic asset to the site and makes it very sticky in the face of Google algorithm changes.
So 20% is true direct traffic. But that other 20% of the total probably is originally sourced from other places (referral, search engines, etc) but they just close the deal over the phone with us.
* Why is Q4 Projected so low compared to Q1-3? * Why are Gross and SDE Margin % falling consistently from 2011-2013?
I think one thing that pops out at me is that while most business get better margins as they scale, your margins are actually declining or stagnant, which seem to be driven by the decline in COGS.
Also, I don't sell my eBook - I give it away for free. :-)
Also how did you get the intial product data i.e pics etc?
That being said, I'd say the majority of stores don't have it....
How did you get started in this? I mean - why trolling motors? And, how did you find drop-ship suppliers for such a seemingly expensive/low volume-product?
Good luck!
Finding drop shippers is actually a lot easier than you might think. You can't find them for every niche and market, but if you're willing to spend some time digging through Google you can usually find legitimate wholesale drop shippers without too much work. I did a video on it (see below) that might be helpful: