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0 pointscpursley13y ago0 comments

You are mixing things up. Ayn Rand is more associated with the right-conservative movement. Libertarianism (with a lower-case l) is simply the belief in a voluntary society - one without coercion. The problem with most peoples political beliefs is they are ego-centric and are based the individual thinking their way is correct and they are so certain of it, they're willing to force others to comply via the barrel of a gun (or proxy gun - aka, military, police, etc) using property confiscation (non-voluntary taxes) as the primary means.

Ask yourself, are you so certain of your position that you are willing to shoot or imprison me even if I'm causing you no harm? This is the modus operandi for both the left and right.

You have some reading to do. Start here: https://mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.asp

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flyinRyan13y ago

>Ayn Rand is more associated with the right-conservative movement.

Then why was she all over those links you gave me? I think your movement has moved on without you.

>is simply the belief in a voluntary society - one with coercion.

You meant without here, right? Then we're talking anarchism. Since libertarians always talk about free markets, that would make it ancap. Which is an oxymoron.

> they're willing to force others to comply via the barrel of a gun (or proxy gun - aka, military, police, etc) with property confiscation (non-voluntary taxes) as the primary means.

A but this is exactly my issue with libertarianism: it's so much more complex than this but libertarians just hand wave all the problems away. Just a few more incantations of "laissez faire" and Utopia will arrive.

I'm not pro-coercion, I simply recognize that capitalism itself implies a level of coercion no matter how you package it up.

>You have some reading to do.

As do you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/rbxjm/an_anarchi...

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