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0 pointssinnerswing13y ago0 comments

>Yes, America has a large population, but that means it also has a very large number of taxpayers, therefore an enormous budget.

I don't blame you if you think this way. You're canadian. You don't know wtf you're talking about. ;)

1. Not everyone in the US has a job. More than 23 million Americans are unemployed/underemployed.[1] And are therefore paying very little/not paying taxes. A large population means a large pool of tax payers, and an even larger pool of non-tax payers.

2. Income inequality. The middle-class/rich are paying more taxes."CNN: The rich pay majority of U.S. income taxes"[2] The top 10% earners of this country already pays more than 70% of all the income taxes.

3. Entitlements are already killing the US economy. 62% of the federal budget goes to entitlement.[3] Where are you going to get the $4-$6 trillion to pay for Obamacare??? OH RIGHT, 4 straight years of trillion dollar deficit under Obama. The government is already borrowing money to pay for existing entitlements![4]OR tax wealthy people! (those earning more than $250K under Obama's plan).

you are laughably uninformed about the issues regarding entitlements in America.

[1]http://www.cnbc.com/id/49450120

[2]http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/12/news/economy/rich-taxes/inde...

[3]http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/10/federal-spe...

[4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_Sta...

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grecy13y ago· 2 in thread

> I don't blame you if you think this way. You're canadian. You don't know wtf you're talking about. ;)

Australian, actually. I just live in Canada. I spent 1.5 years living and working in America too.

Those problems or "issues" you present are not unique to America. Every country in the world has unemployment, income inequality and entitlements.

It's simply a question of where you want your government to spend the tax dollars it collects. Currently, they spend it blowing things up while tens of millions of it's citizens are without basic healthcare.

sinnerswingOP13y ago

>It's simply a question of where you want your government to spend the tax dollars it collects. Currently, they spend it blowing things up while tens of millions of it's citizens are without basic healthcare.

62% of the US federal budget goes to entitlements (Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security). That's ONLY $2 Trillion. 18.7% goes to the defense spending. [1]

Implementing Obamacare will cost $4-$6 Trillion. WHERE DO YOU SUGGEST WE GET $4-6 TRILLION? Even if you cut 100% of the defense budget it won't be not enough to pay for Obamacare.

[1]http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/10/federal-spe...

run4yourlives13y ago

>62% of the US federal budget goes to entitlements

In other words, 62% of your revenue goes back to the taxpayers that provided that revenue. If anything, I'd be complaining about the other 48% if I were you.

>Implementing Obamacare

The argument that Medicare costs x and support y people, and Obamacare costs 2x and supports 2y people, therefore full universal care would cost 100x and support 100y people is flawed.

Clearly, if the US went universal, the massive administration costs associated with HMOs and such would no longer be an expense to be paid. Instead of being a large employer within your currently broken system, you replace the system.

There is a reason your health spending is almost double per capita to the next highest nation, and it has nothing to do with your population.

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