Opera Mail – standalone mail client (opens in new tab)

Just tested this with https://emailprivacytester.com/ and it failed

Even though it claims to not load remote content by default, and pops up a "Load Images" dialogue, it actually loads content from the html5 video and audio tags immediately.

So whilst this doesn't work unless the user clicks "Load Images":

  <img src="http://TRACKING_URL/">

This does:

  <video autoplay="true" src="http://TRACKING_URL/"></video>

Look at all the comments under the announcement. Really sum's up how I feel as well. A selling point of Opera was the built in email client.

I liked how Opera used to be a silo for a whole bunch of features. When you closed it the rest closed as well. Was a great way to turn off work.

Now we have ANOTHER fairly generic stand alone email client. ANOTHER fairly generic webkit browser. If it wasn't branded with an Opera logo would anyone really give a shit?

Wow, that sure is an annoying product page. Where are the details about what mail providers they support? Does it do calendering? What are the system requirements (WinXP, OS X 10.5, CentOS 5, etc...)?

Windows only?!?

It is also a RSS reader. I don't really get it.

Good. But what I want to see, is Opera web browser _without_ an email client (and all the other stuff I never use.) Opera browser badly needs some slimming down.

Call me old fashioned, but I deliberately use a prehistoric email client _precisely_ because it does not know anything about active content. Barely even handles html. And I like it that way.

Now if Opera's email client had a big master switch, to totally disable all features beyond strictly dumb ASCII, and a means to import huge old mail archives from Eudora, then I'd be interested.

Edit: Correction: to disable anything beyond dumb ASCII plus UTF-8 foreign language support. But NOT html or any other active content.

The main thing I care about with a mail client is the exit strategy - if I don't like it, can I export all my mail losslessly to mbox or eml files?

Does anyone know how it fares at this?

I use gmail now, though in the past I've used The Bat.

I'm kind of disappointed by the first-launch experience: there's no configuration wizards for common email providers, not even for fastmail which is an Opera division AFAIK.

Edit : Actually there is, but it's not very discoverable.

An important feature for email: fast and flexible search over a large dataset. This is easier to implement in the cloud than on the client. So I don't see a strong future for desktop-based email clients.

I'd like to hear the full story on how Opera self-destructed as a company. Someone should write a book or something.

Does it offer PGP integration?

Well-designed email clients with proper privacy seem to be very hard to come by, and new players in that niche would be welcome. Particularly in the current climate, I would argue.

Well, just installed and I rather like it. Sleek design. Simple interface. RSS is a good addition. Sadly, though, no auto-feed discovery like many RSS clients do nowadays.

At first glance looks more appealing than Thunderbird. Certainly so in configuration, which is simpler and more intuitive. Thunderbird's single SMTP pane for all accounts annoys me each time I see it.

Lacking vertical positioning for the "List and Message below" layout. But I guess it's just a bug.

They launched it very timely, when the cloud is no more to be trusted. Behold! The return of the desktop app! :)

I am not particularly happy with its integration with Gmail. Each email from facebook group is assigned separate mailing list. So now when I expand mailing list it is just cluttered with rubbish sublists like [0-9]*.groups.facebook... In general part which is responsible for detecting what is actually a mailing list isn't very clever. It would be nice if instead of creating folders for each label on Gmail it would create new label - so that it will be 1-1 integration.

Design seems really neat and if it will provide better Gmail integration I would love to use it. Of course I realise it is not going to be number one front-end for Gmail ported from web to standalone application, but I think that most popular mailboxes deserve it.

Is anyone here using fastmail and can tell how well it integrates in it? Is it more ingelligent and joins labels from fastmail with those in OperaMail or it just works the same way as with Gmail - new folder for each label?

Installed it but didn't use it. I don't want to go through the hassle of looking for the configuration info of my GMail (one of the most popular email services) account. So 2003.

I never understood tabs in an email client

I see no mention is made of their secret access portal to NSA...

Looks interesting. I've been a Thunderbird user for a long time but the fact it appears to have been practically abandoned[0] by Mozilla is a shame.

The 'Import from Thunderbird' wizard appears to be a bit broken, though. It tried to import all my Thunderbird accounts but seems to have just munged them all into one account in Opera Mail. It would be nice if I could selectively import single Thunderbird accounts.

Also, as others have mentioned, it seems to be lacking compared to Thunderbird in auto configuration (in TB, I can enter a Google Apps email address and it'll figure out it's Google for me).

[0] https://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2012/07/06/thunderbird-stabi...

I just tested running the Windows version under Wine on Debian Wheezy and it works.

Always good to see a new desktop client. Hopefully they'll add Kerberos auth, PGP/MIME and read/write LDAP based address books. Until then I'll stick with Evolution for those features.

The download page is so sleek it doesn't even have a link to documentation so I can see what I'm downloading before wasting my time.

Great news! Thunderbird was horrific on my aging Windows machine last year, so always had Opera open just for email.

Been using this since the release candidate a week or so ago and absolutely loving it. Has a few quirks here and there which need to be configured or ignored, but I've found it the best organising tool for mail on OSX in a long.

Loaded up my gmail in it. Then went to attachments, documents. Lots of hits from my gmail spam-folder. This needs work...

edit: the basic mail function looks okay. looking forward to testing the linux version against exchange.

Looks interesting, definitely will give it a go.

Can anyone suggest other mail clients worth trying out? I'm tired of Mail.app these days.

Is there a way to connect it to the OSX Address Book or Gmail contacts? Doesn't look like it?

Looks great, I just need to wait for the Linux version before I give it a go :)

When is Mozilla going to make a Thunderbird addon for Firefox?

So, how secure do we know this is?

No Linux support boo!