Ember.js 1.0 RC4 released (opens in new tab)

Ember is a lot harder to go from 0 to Todo App in an hour. There's a fairly steep learning curve, but once you've grokked the "Ember Way", building more complex apps is significantly easier.

With Angular, you can build a Todo App in no time, but building anything more complex requires you to understand e.g. Services, Directives, and Transclusion.

With Ember, you are just learning about Models, Views, & Controllers -- it doesn't get significantly more complex than that initial learning curve.

I'm throwing my 2 cents in, although I haven't built a large scale app with either, I did do a full evaluation of both before my latest large app and I decided on neither one. There were many reasons but every time I wanted to do anything that was remotely non-trivial both fell apart. Although most of that had to do with the MVC pattern more than the actual framework (but the two are tied intricately) In the process of evaluating these two frameworks I found KnockoutJS and I chose it for my large project that is one year into development. After one year with it I love it more now then when I first started. It's not perfect but it is a really well thought out framework, it does lack some documentation, ko.utils I'm looking at you. But it's documentation is vastly superior to the other two frameworks, at least it was a year ago. It's very stable and I prefer the team's approach. The two binding and subscription model is great for solving some intricate problems. It's easily extensible with custom bindings and unlike angular doesn't favour bad coding habits that lock you in to the framework, I forget the name now but their custom HTML tags (I think they call them directives) is nothing but bad news and vendor lock in.

The Ember app that I'm working on has about 20 controllers plus all the models, templates, etc. It's a few thousand LOC right now.

We use it because we don't actually serve (much) HTML. We server up basically an empty DOM and the Ember app uses Handlebars templates to generate the entire webpage as it pulls data from our REST API.

Akamai hosts all our Ember code + handlebars templates + css + images, so the client only hits our servers for the REST API.

I've done some Angular with a simple internal tool, but it didn't see possible (or at least very easy) to take a similar approach so we stuck with Ember.

Angular is vastly superior to Ember technology wise; Their approach is also more future proof (No stupid getter/setter, string templates, the architecture is based on something very close to web components, etc)

You can see an open source, hosted dashboard that we're developing here:

https://github.com/balanced/balanced-dashboard

It's live @ https://dash.balancedpayments.com/

We're currently moving over the old dashboard to the new one, so it's currently a WIP. Happy to field any questions on Github.

Agree. The router needs a little more power and then 1.0 will be pretty sweet.

This will definitely be in before 1.0