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0 pointsameister1413y ago0 comments

Yeah, except you don't need to take the reasoning to the extreme. Physical property redistribution happens in countries all around the world all the time. Why do you think the founders of the US decided only property owners could vote?

I don't think of the government taking people's savings out of a bank and the government taking people's land as very different. It's a small and easy step to take from one to the other, and it's a step that has been taken many, many times before.

As to your last paragraph; it is foolish to assume social changes or governmental behaviors are more or less likely because of technological advances.

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burntsushi13y ago

> Physical property redistribution happens in countries all around the world all the time.

We're not talking about the entire world.

> I don't think of the government taking people's savings out of a bank and the government taking people's land as very different.

Yes. I don't either, and neither does the top parent. That's the point.

> As to your last paragraph; it is foolish to assume social changes or governmental behaviors are more or less likely because of technological advances.

If you say so.

ameister14OP13y ago

You're only talking about Western European and North American governments? They're not all that different from governments elsewhere.

See the interesting thing for me is that the taking of physical property is actually just as likely as taking savings from banks. You and the op seemed to disagree with this, but I don't know what you could use to back that opinion up.

If you believe that the discovery of electricity makes me a better person, or even a different one, I don't know what to say to you.

burntsushi13y ago

> You're only talking about Western European and North American governments?

The top parent is.

> They're not all that different from governments elsewhere.

This statement is content free. "Different" is sufficiently general in this context as to be completely useless.

> See the interesting thing for me is that the taking of physical property is actually just as likely as taking savings from banks. You and the op seemed to disagree with this, but I don't know what you could use to back that opinion up.

The top parent said

> They would have never gone to a farmer and taken 10% of their grain.

Which is true by observation. Governments in first world countries are demonstrably not doing this.

> If you believe that the discovery of electricity makes me a better person, or even a different one, I don't know what to say to you.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. This conversation has nothing to do with electricity or what defines a person to be "better".

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0 pointsameister1413y ago0 comments

As to your last paragraph; it is foolish to assume social changes or governmental behaviors are more or less likely because of technological advances.

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burntsushi13y ago

> Physical property redistribution happens in countries all around the world all the time.

We're not talking about the entire world.

> I don't think of the government taking people's savings out of a bank and the government taking people's land as very different.

Yes. I don't either, and neither does the top parent. That's the point.

> As to your last paragraph; it is foolish to assume social changes or governmental behaviors are more or less likely because of technological advances.

If you say so.

ameister14OP13y ago

You're only talking about Western European and North American governments? They're not all that different from governments elsewhere.

If you believe that the discovery of electricity makes me a better person, or even a different one, I don't know what to say to you.

burntsushi13y ago

> You're only talking about Western European and North American governments?

The top parent is.

> They're not all that different from governments elsewhere.

This statement is content free. "Different" is sufficiently general in this context as to be completely useless.

The top parent said

> They would have never gone to a farmer and taken 10% of their grain.

Which is true by observation. Governments in first world countries are demonstrably not doing this.

> If you believe that the discovery of electricity makes me a better person, or even a different one, I don't know what to say to you.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. This conversation has nothing to do with electricity or what defines a person to be "better".

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