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0 pointsphpnode13y ago0 comments

but still the majority of them do, by a wide margin. I don't even know why you're debating this, it's completely obvious that jQuery has by far the largest mindshare.

edit: ok now I get it, I had a look at your website. You like Closure so jQuery must suck, right? Also I would be in the hospital after 5 shots....

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oinksoft13y ago

Well, don't provide a test like "you'll be in the hospital by #20" if you haven't vetted the results of it first.

My personal advocacy for the Closure Tools does not discredit my views on other tools, and I'm hoping this ad hominem nonsense doesn't fly in such a forum. Quite a few people come into the IRC channel and are using the Closure Compiler with jQuery and I don't give them shit. I take no issue with you using, liking, preferring jQuery.

You know why I like Closure? Because it makes the hard things possible. When you're talking about JavaScript running the web, it's websites like Gmail that matter the most. And you'd have a hell of a time getting Gmail to run as smoothy as it does using a library like jQuery, or even ExtJS.

phpnodeOP13y ago

you're right in that I should have checked first, and really if you think about it it's no surprise that YouTube, Yahoo, Google etc are using their own tools. That does not detract from the point that jQuery has massive, ridiculous mind share and completely dominates the web though. Your point about it being impossible to build a gmail style app in jQuery is extremely dubious. There are an awful lot of complicated JS apps built on jQuery.

ripter13y ago

If you check you are right. Amazon, eBay, and MSN all use jQuery. (at least on their homepage).

You can't simply look for the global `$` or a single file named jquery.

I work on large corporate applications and we use jQuery, but we would fail the `$` and jquery file test. We don't expose the global `$` and jquery gets combined and minified with our own code.

oinksoft13y ago

You seriously underestimate the complexity of Gmail. It may well be the most complex JavaScript application in existence with an appreciable user base.

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tomjen313y ago

Before you insult a poster, please look at what he is actually refuting: that virtually everybody use JQuery.

Virtually everybody is far more than a majority.

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oinksoft13y ago

Well, don't provide a test like "you'll be in the hospital by #20" if you haven't vetted the results of it first.

phpnodeOP13y ago

ripter13y ago

If you check you are right. Amazon, eBay, and MSN all use jQuery. (at least on their homepage).

You can't simply look for the global `$` or a single file named jquery.

I work on large corporate applications and we use jQuery, but we would fail the `$` and jquery file test. We don't expose the global `$` and jquery gets combined and minified with our own code.

oinksoft13y ago

You seriously underestimate the complexity of Gmail. It may well be the most complex JavaScript application in existence with an appreciable user base.

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tomjen313y ago

Before you insult a poster, please look at what he is actually refuting: that virtually everybody use JQuery.

Virtually everybody is far more than a majority.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse