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0 pointsmaxharris13y ago0 comments

I have a right to disagree. I have a right to put what I want on a web server, at my own expense, without fear of DoS attacks or website defacement.

If anarchy rules, any person group can do those things without fear of reprisal. That's basically what Anonymous does, and that's why they have to be stopped.

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dmix13y ago

Anarchy doesn't have to mean chaos. The government and individuals could easily defend themselves from anonymous attacks if they utilized proper information security.

maxharrisOP13y ago

Anarchy doesn't have to mean chaos.

anarchy |ˈanərkē|

noun

* a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority: he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy.

* absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.

[New Oxford American Dictionary, Dictionary.app, OS X 10.7]

If you want to convince me that this definition is wrong, show me why it's not a valid concept to hold, given the facts of reality.

dmix13y ago

There is a distinction between the commonly held meaning of anarchy (as chaos) and the political philosophy (which is why there are 2 asterisks).

Anarchism the political ideology believe that order doesn't not have to come from a centralized state via force. Rather it can happen organically... since the vast majority of humans desire order. We all value security, eatting, etc.

The difference is that order is maintained not via coercion by a central authority but by individuals, communities or markets (depending on the various branches of anarchy).

This book explores the concept very well and is heavily cited in philosophy circles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy,_State,_and_Utopia

One of his arguments is that a sort of minimal state will eventually begin to appear in an anarchist society (minarchy).

camus13y ago

Anarchy means WITHOUT MASTER , it never meant WITHOUT RULES OR LAWS, i'm sick of people using that word not even knowing what it means ! or the novlang machine worked so well you are all brainwashed ?

>>> The word "Anarchy" comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία, anarchia, from ἀν an, "not, without" + ἀρχός arkhos, "ruler", meaning "absence of a leader", "without rulers").

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dmix13y ago

Anarchy doesn't have to mean chaos. The government and individuals could easily defend themselves from anonymous attacks if they utilized proper information security.

maxharrisOP13y ago

Anarchy doesn't have to mean chaos.

anarchy |ˈanərkē|

noun

* a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority: he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy.

* absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.

[New Oxford American Dictionary, Dictionary.app, OS X 10.7]

If you want to convince me that this definition is wrong, show me why it's not a valid concept to hold, given the facts of reality.

dmix13y ago

There is a distinction between the commonly held meaning of anarchy (as chaos) and the political philosophy (which is why there are 2 asterisks).

The difference is that order is maintained not via coercion by a central authority but by individuals, communities or markets (depending on the various branches of anarchy).

This book explores the concept very well and is heavily cited in philosophy circles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy,_State,_and_Utopia

One of his arguments is that a sort of minimal state will eventually begin to appear in an anarchist society (minarchy).

camus13y ago

>>> The word "Anarchy" comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία, anarchia, from ἀν an, "not, without" + ἀρχός arkhos, "ruler", meaning "absence of a leader", "without rulers").

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