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0 pointsrogerbinns13y ago0 comments

I haven't but I did look at the page as it was linked in the article. I never saw any mention of code formatting. An example of what I expect is like the Eclipse Source > Format option which will go in and make everything consistent including making lines less than 80 chars, adding space around operators (I never put in spaces which goes against almost every style guide), ensuring the arms of if/else always have braces etc.

I actually do most of my iOS development by running emacs on my Linux box and using sshfs to access the files on the Mac. I use command line tools for compilation/running/debug. I did originally start out using Xcode but it gets in the way of the coding. (My work involves a library that functions in the background and has no user interface.)

AppCode hasn't seemed worth the effort to investigate and $200 is rather a lot to spend on a code reformatter. (Also only running on MacOS makes it significantly less useful to me.)

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cageface13y ago

AppCode does exactly the kind of source cleanup you describe. It also manages #imports for you, has better code completion, provides a more useful debugger, and gives you refactoring tools almost as good as those available for Java.

You can only do iOS dev on a Mac so I don't understand why you consider that an AppCode negative.

Considering how much my time is worth as an iOS dev the $99 I spent for a personal license is probably the best software purchase I've ever made.

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

I'm doing development at a startup which means minimal funding and a $200 license. My main development system is running Linux and I do development of client side Android and iOS, plus server side (mostly Python), web, database etc. AppCode only helps for one of those, and would be more valuable to me if it ran on non-Mac platforms even just as a better Objective C editor.

Note that I do do iOS dev on a Mac but I use a combination of emacs on my Linux box using sshfs and command line tools over ssh, plus Xcode when necessary. The product is a library with no user interface so this is actually more productive.

In any event it looks like I should try AppCode. Hopefully it won't have the flaw that stopped me with Sublime Text 2. SL2 didn't detect when a file had been modified outside the editor (eg by vcs or different editor) and happily overwrote the modifications!

I had briefly tried Xcode refactoring before giving up and using search/replace in emacs. One of the curses of multiple languages, client and server etc is that names sometimes end up wrong and need fixing to match local conventions.

alxndr13y ago

FWIW, RubyMine does notice when a file has been modified on disk. If you have unsaved changes in RubyMine, it pops up an alert that lets you pick which to keep or to diff the two; if you don't have changes it just refreshes and shows the version on disk.

cageface13y ago

You sound like a busy guy!

In any event, AppCode is very good at picking up external modifications because that's how it integrates with XCode.

jasonlotito13y ago

AppCode is $100.

$200 is you purchase a company license, which means anyone at the company can use it. If you are the only person using it, you only have to pay $100.

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

AppCode is $100 if you make the purchase using your own money and are not reimbursed in any way by the company. I try to keep work and personal stuff very separate and have no personal need for AppCode. $100/200 is still pretty steep for a code reformatting tool!

"If you, as an individual, are purchasing a product license using your own funds, then the personal license is right for you.

Personal licenses are not available to companies in any way or form. Transfer of personal licenses to any third party and/or reimbursement for personal license purchase by a company are prohibited by the Personal License Agreement."

jasonlotito13y ago

Yes, I'm aware of this. I was simply clarifying the pricing is not $200, but $100 for a single-person license. There has been confusion in the past regarding this, people assuming that if you use one of their products for business, you must purchase a company license. Even if you only use AppCode for work stuff, you do not need to purchase a company license.

mikehotel13y ago

Late correction, I know, but Apple does not offer a $200 iOS developer program. Depending on which of their 4 iOS programs you choose, the costs can be free, $99, or $299. See https://developer.apple.com/programs/which-program/ for specifics. Most of the confusion I have seen is around the Developer Program (Company) and the Enterprise Developer Program.

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

We were talking about the costs of AppCode not any program offered by Apple.

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0 pointsrogerbinns13y ago0 comments

AppCode hasn't seemed worth the effort to investigate and $200 is rather a lot to spend on a code reformatter. (Also only running on MacOS makes it significantly less useful to me.)

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cageface13y ago

You can only do iOS dev on a Mac so I don't understand why you consider that an AppCode negative.

Considering how much my time is worth as an iOS dev the $99 I spent for a personal license is probably the best software purchase I've ever made.

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

alxndr13y ago

cageface13y ago

You sound like a busy guy!

In any event, AppCode is very good at picking up external modifications because that's how it integrates with XCode.

jasonlotito13y ago

AppCode is $100.

$200 is you purchase a company license, which means anyone at the company can use it. If you are the only person using it, you only have to pay $100.

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

"If you, as an individual, are purchasing a product license using your own funds, then the personal license is right for you.

jasonlotito13y ago

mikehotel13y ago

rogerbinnsOP13y ago

We were talking about the costs of AppCode not any program offered by Apple.

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