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0 pointsdigitaltrees5d ago0 comments

You need to look up loss leader strategy and dumping in international trade because that is what china is doing. And your use of their models over api is giving them training data.

They will flip to being just as bad or worse if they beat America.

But America isn’t deserving trust at this point.

The only viable option now is local AI. Our industry needs to figure out how to decentralize training data, infrastructure, inference and analysis.

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trollbridge5d ago· 2 in thread

Most the Chinese models are open source. You can buy some hardware and go run them yourself, if you really are concerned about "dumping" and "loss leaders".

digitaltreesOP5d ago

But you do see that supports my argument right? For every one of Us that stops paying monthly subscription or api costs to OpenAI/anthropic/google the smaller their market gets. Taken to enough scale and they won’t reach profitability.

So while I am running local models I am aware of the geopolitical implications

js85d ago

Why do you care about geopolitical implications? (I don't see how it supports your argument, sorry.)

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chorizo5d ago

I made the same switch. Impressed with the sheer value of Deepseek v4 Pro and Minimax M3 so far. I mostly work on an open source academic simulation tool, so I’m happy to be a source of training data.

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